Re: tape-hardware compression stats

Jean-Louis Martineau <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.archivers.amanda.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 15/01/16 02:32 PM, Chapman Flack wrote:
> Hello -hackers,
>
> If I use server compression and raw tape, it seems the curinfo
> database gets populated with useful stats about different DLEs,
> how well they compress, etc. Features like flush-threshold-dumped
> and taperalgo largestfit ought to be fairly reliable, as they
> know the compressed sizes of the filesets, and the real capacity
> of the tape.
>
> If I use only tape hardware compression, no statistics about
> compressibility or final on-tape size get generated (I've just
> inherited an installation that's running 3.2.3 and not the
> latest version, so if my info is out of date and later versions
> are different, I'd be happy to hear it!)
>
> That makes the above-mentioned features sort of hit-or-miss,
> because they are looking at the uncompressed holding-disk sizes,
> and comparing to the manufacturer's hand-wavey "media capacity
> with compression" figures, so Amanda might hold a bunch of
> data until it's expected to be worth a tape, and then it
> turns out to be half a tape, or two tapes, when actually
> written to the media.
>
> It might be that enough modern tape drives now support the
> SCSI log sense compression pages (32h or 1Bh) ... and enough
> popular OSes have something like the linux sg or solaris uscsi
> generic driver features ... that it could be worthwhile for the
> driver to be able to query after writing each fileset and
> determine the actual on-tape size and compression ratio.
>
> That's the part I think I could figure out on my own. What I'm
> more curious about is, how much hackage would be needed in amanda
> for stats like that, gathered by the tape device, to bubble back
> up and be recorded somewhere useful, like with the curinfo stats?
> Is that possible with existing protocols, or would a protocol
> revision be needed first?
>
> If the stats are gathered from the tape device, maybe they should
> just go in curinfo exactly where the compressed sizes/ratios would
> already go for server compression (since it is not likely that
> both are in use).  Or would it be better to record them separately?
I think it is better to keep them separated, to allow to easily switch 
between software and hardware compression.

> Am I right in assuming that if those stats were available, they
> would get used by the existing logic that evaluates
> flush-threshold-... and largestfit and so on, to make better
> decisions? Or would that require additional development too?

They will not be used, because amanda don't know if the hardware 
compression is use or not.
We need a device-property to tell amanda that hardware compression is use:
     device-property "hardware-compression" "on"

With that property, it could be possible for amanda to enable/disable 
hardware compression.

Jean-Louis
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