Re: Is Amanda Dead?
Chris Nighswonger <[email protected]> Fri, 12 May 2023 09:31:49 -0400 (EDT)
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--=_93994c49-f25e-461a-92a5-008f376da58e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has it been a decade already? Man, time flies.=20 Amanda is still doing the job for us at this point. Every few years somethi= ng borks, and I hold back a good set of tapes, clean everything up, and sta= rt over. But its so seldom its worth the trouble. No time to hack on code t= hough unfortunately.=20 Chris=20 From: "Dustin J. Mitchell" <[email protected]>=20 To: "gene heskett" <[email protected]>=20 Cc: "Ian Turner" <[email protected]>, "cnighswonger" <cnighswonger@foundati= ons.edu>, "Hackers List Amanda" <[email protected]>=20 Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 8:41:38 PM=20 Subject: Re: Is Amanda Dead?=20 I wouldn't say I'm back by any means. I haven't used Amanda, or autoconf, i= n well over a decade :)=20 I'm just still on the distribution list for sourceforge commits to the webs= ite, so I happened to see those few commits recently.=20 Dustin=20 On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 6:51 PM gene heskett < [ mailto:[email protected]= t | [email protected] ] > wrote:=20 On 5/11/23 17:49, Dustin J. Mitchell wrote:=20 > Huh, I missed the initial message on this thread. I wonder if this=20 > mailing-list manager is having trouble delivering things. I imagine it's= =20 > largely unmaintained?=20 >=20 > Anyway, there's been some changes in the last few weeks to the website,= =20 > e.g., [ https://sourceforge.net/p/amanda/www/512/ | https://sourceforge.n= et/p/amanda/www/512/ ] -- so there might be=20 > something going on. I don't know who Shipra is, though (=20 > [ https://sourceforge.net/u/developershipra/profile/ | https://sourceforg= e.net/u/developershipra/profile/ ] ).=20 >=20 > Dustin=20 Glad to see you back Dustin=20 I just pulled the 3.5.3 tar.gz from the betsol site but its not all=20 there, autogen has not been run and won't run.=20 gene@coyote:~/src/amanda-tag-community-3.5.3$ ./autogen=20 See DEVELOPING for instructions on updating:=20 * gettext macros=20 * gnulib=20 * libtool files=20 ..creating file lists=20 ..aclocal=20 config/amanda/libs.m4:160: warning: macro 'AM_PATH_GLIB_2_0' not found=20 in library=20 ...aclocal patches=20 ..autoconf=20 configure:46532: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_GLIB_2_0=20 If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.=20 See the Autoconf documentation.=20 configure:46533: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_MSG_ERROR=20 autoconf failed=20 is the sourceforge version better?=20 > On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 4:03 PM Ian Turner < [ mailto:[email protected] |= [email protected] ] > wrote:=20 >=20 >> I don=E2=80=99t have like any data on this but my guess is that things h= ave=20 >> returned to the status quo around the turn of the century, before Zmanda= ,=20 >> when Amanda was widely used but without much development.=20 >>=20 >> Though if I had to guess probably both the user and development=20 >> communities today are smaller than they were then.=20 >>=20 >> On May 11, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Chris Nighswonger <=20 >> [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] >= wrote:=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> So... is Amanda dead?=20 >>=20 >> What prompts this is that the client/server download links on the zamand= a=20 >> website are non-functional. ( [ https://www.zmanda.com/downloads/ | http= s://www.zmanda.com/downloads/ ] ) And its=20 >> been ages since I've received any activity from the list.=20 >>=20 >> Chris=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 Cheers, Gene Heskett.=20 --=20 "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:=20 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."=20 -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)=20 If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.= =20 - Louis D. Brandeis=20 Genes Web page < [ http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/ | http://geneslinuxbox.ne= t:6309/ ] >=20 --=_93994c49-f25e-461a-92a5-008f376da58e Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Has it been a decade already? Man, time fli= es.<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Amanda is still doing= the job for us at this point. Every few years something borks, and I hold = back a good set of tapes, clean everything up, and start over. But its so s= eldom its worth the trouble. No time to hack on code though unfortunately.<= br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Chri= s<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker= =3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Dustin J. M= itchell" <[email protected]><br><b>To: </b>"gene heskett" <ghesket= [email protected]><br><b>Cc: </b>"Ian Turner" <[email protected]>, "cn= ighswonger" <[email protected]>, "Hackers List Amanda" <= ;[email protected]><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, May 11, 2023 8:41:= 38 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: Is Amanda Dead?<br></div><div><br></div><div d= ata-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I wouldn't say I'm bac= k by any means. I haven't used Amanda, or autoconf, in well over a decade := )</div><br><div>I'm just still on the distribution list for sourceforge com= mits to the website, so I happened to see those few commits recently.<br></= div><br><div>Dustin<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir= =3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 6:51=E2=80=AFPM gene = heskett <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel= =3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></= div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bor= der-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex">On 5/11/23 17:4= 9, Dustin J. Mitchell wrote:<br> > Huh, I missed the initial message on this thread. I wonder if this<br> > mailing-list manager is having trouble delivering things. I imagine it= 's<br> > largely unmaintained?<br> > <br> > Anyway, there's been some changes in the last few weeks to the website= ,<br> > e.g., <a href=3D"https://sourceforge.net/p/amanda/www/512/" rel=3D"nor= eferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://sourceforge= .net/p/amanda/www/512/</a> -- so there might be<br> > something going on. I don't know who Shipra is, though (<br> > <a href=3D"https://sourceforge.net/u/developershipra/profile/" rel=3D"= noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://sourcefo= rge.net/u/developershipra/profile/</a>).<br> > <br> > Dustin<br> <br> Glad to see you back Dustin<br> <br> I just pulled the 3.5.3 tar.gz from the betsol site but its not all <br> there, autogen has not been run and won't run.<br> gene@coyote:~/src/amanda-tag-community-3.5.3$ ./autogen<br> See DEVELOPING for instructions on updating:<br> * gettext macros<br> * gnulib<br> * libtool files<br> ..creating file lists<br> ..aclocal<br> config/amanda/libs.m4:160: warning: macro 'AM_PATH_GLIB_2_0' not found <br> in library<br> ...aclocal patches<br> ..autoconf<br> configure:46532: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PATH_GLIB_2_0<br> If this token and others are legitimate, please = use m4_pattern_allow.<br> See the Autoconf documentation.<br> configure:46533: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_MSG_ERROR<br> autoconf failed<br> <br> is the sourceforge version better?<br> <br> <br> > On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 4:03=E2=80=AFPM Ian Turner <<a href=3D"mail= to:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer= ">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> >> I don=E2=80=99t have like any data on this but my guess is that th= ings have<br> >> returned to the status quo around the turn of the century, before = Zmanda,<br> >> when Amanda was widely used but without much development.<br> >><br> >> Though if I had to guess probably both the user and development<br= > >> communities today are smaller than they were then.<br> >><br> >> On May 11, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Chris Nighswonger <<br> >> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" = rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> w= rote:<br> >><br> >> <br> >> So... is Amanda dead?<br> >><br> >> What prompts this is that the client/server download links on the = zamanda<br> >> website are non-functional. (<a href=3D"https://www.zmanda.com/dow= nloads/" rel=3D"noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">= https://www.zmanda.com/downloads/</a>) And its<br> >> been ages since I've received any activity from the list.<br> >><br> >> Chris<br> >><br> >><br> > <br> <br> Cheers, Gene Heskett.<br> -- <br> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:<br> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."<br> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)<br> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.<b= r> - Louis D. Brandeis<br> Genes Web page <<a href=3D"http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/" rel=3D"norefe= rrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://geneslinuxbox.n= et:6309/</a>><br> <br> </blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html> --=_93994c49-f25e-461a-92a5-008f376da58e--