Re: Bad visual feedback for KORG nanoKONTROL 2

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Just to try to be as clear as possible:

the generic MIDI code used by binding maps (and by dynamically learned
bindings) it not capable of doing what you want.

there's a reason why we have dedicated control code for thing like mackie
control devices, the push 2, the faderport 8 and so on.



On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:21 PM, David Kastrup <[email protected]> wrote:

> Len Ovens <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > On Sat, 26 Aug 2017, David Kastrup wrote:
> >>
> >> This is just a change in the comment.  I assume that I can submit
> >> patches to the list when not having a Github account.
> >
> > I am not so sure that advice is wrong actually looking at the file. I
> > notice that all the controls mentioned are CCs. So if they are not set
> > to toggle, The user presses the button, the control turns on, the user
> > releases the button and the control turns off. I would expect that
> > most people expect the solo to stay on even after they remove their
> > finger. Test this for yourself.
>
> Testing it for myself is exactly _why_ I say that advice is wrong.
>
> Should I prepare a demonstration video?
>
> >>> Do you know if they light when banked?
> >>
> >> First I'd need to know what it means to have the channel controls
> >> banked.
> >
> > There are two buttons: bank_up and bank_down, in a session with more
> > than 8 tracks, when bank_up is pressed do the lights on the controler
> > show what the gui shows for the next 8 tracks?
>
> Sigh.  It doesn't move into non-existent tracks apparently.  I'll need a
> bit more time to give a feedback about this one.
>
> > Using the mackie control part of ardour would be better if you
> > could.
>
> That's what I did at first but I was advised against it.  It also had
> drawbacks (don't remember right now what they were).  The nanoKONTROL
> can operate in a number of modes with slight differences.  I might take
> another look.
>
> > An alternative, if you have a smart phone,
>
> Haven't and won't.  Too many time sinks already around.
>
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> David Kastrup
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,he=
lvetica,sans-serif">Just to try to be as clear as possible:<br><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"=
>the generic MIDI code used by binding maps (and by dynamically learned bin=
dings) it not capable of doing what you want.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">there&#39;s a=
 reason why we have dedicated control code for thing like mackie control de=
vices, the push 2, the faderport 8 and so on. <br><br><br></div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 a=
t 12:21 PM, David Kastrup <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
rg" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">Len Ovens &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:len@ovenwer=
ks.net">[email protected]</a>&gt; writes:<br>
<br>
&gt; On Sat, 26 Aug 2017, David Kastrup wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
</span><span class=3D"">&gt;&gt; This is just a change in the comment.=C2=
=A0 I assume that I can submit<br>
&gt;&gt; patches to the list when not having a Github account.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am not so sure that advice is wrong actually looking at the file. I<=
br>
&gt; notice that all the controls mentioned are CCs. So if they are not set=
<br>
&gt; to toggle, The user presses the button, the control turns on, the user=
<br>
&gt; releases the button and the control turns off. I would expect that<br>
&gt; most people expect the solo to stay on even after they remove their<br=
>
&gt; finger. Test this for yourself.<br>
<br>
</span>Testing it for myself is exactly _why_ I say that advice is wrong.<b=
r>
<br>
Should I prepare a demonstration video?<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Do you know if they light when banked?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; First I&#39;d need to know what it means to have the channel contr=
ols<br>
&gt;&gt; banked.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There are two buttons: bank_up and bank_down, in a session with more<b=
r>
&gt; than 8 tracks, when bank_up is pressed do the lights on the controler<=
br>
&gt; show what the gui shows for the next 8 tracks?<br>
<br>
</span>Sigh.=C2=A0 It doesn&#39;t move into non-existent tracks apparently.=
=C2=A0 I&#39;ll need a<br>
bit more time to give a feedback about this one.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt; Using the mackie control part of ardour would be better if you<br>
&gt; could.<br>
<br>
</span>That&#39;s what I did at first but I was advised against it.=C2=A0 I=
t also had<br>
drawbacks (don&#39;t remember right now what they were).=C2=A0 The nanoKONT=
ROL<br>
can operate in a number of modes with slight differences.=C2=A0 I might tak=
e<br>
another look.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt; An alternative, if you have a smart phone,<br>
<br>
</span>Haven&#39;t and won&#39;t.=C2=A0 Too many time sinks already around.=
<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
--<br>
David Kastrup<br>
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