Re: Japanese language issues

Well, I guess I was right…it didn’t make any sense at all.  It still doesn’t, but I can no longer recreate the issue after installing Windows updates.  Along with driver updates, ther other updates installed were:

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb4589212-intel-microcode-updates-for-windows-10-version-2004-and-20h2-and-windows-server-version-2004-and-20h2-9f8641b3-bd8e-6fe7-ab4d-4603847c4030

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/february-24-2021-kb4601554-cumulative-update-preview-for-net-framework-3-5-and-4-8-for-windows-10-version-2004-windows-server-version-2004-windows-10-version-20h2-and-windows-server-version-20h2-958fff0c-783b-27b3-8a93-226f7798225a

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/kb4577586-update-for-the-removal-of-adobe-flash-player-october-27-2020-931521b9-075a-ce54-b9af-ff3d5da047d5

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/march-18-2021-kb5001649-os-builds-19041-870-and-19042-870-out-of-band-ebbe0617-3a63-467a-aaaa-2a4c68a6de33

 

Since that last one seemed to be the most likely candidate for fixing it, I went ahead and uninstalled it.  Still unable to reproduce the problem.  I may get more ambitious later today and uninstall the others…maybe. 

 

From: Leland <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 7:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Audacity-devel] Japanese language issues

 

It’s not a 32-bit vs 64-bit thing.  It’s not a VS2017 vs VS2019 thing.  It just doesn’t make any sense.  That commit should not be causing this.

 

From: Leland <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 7:36 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Audacity-devel] Japanese language issues

 

Well, I’ve tracked it down to commit b32ce8ab210700fe3de23353b6ff504b70e5ef7f. If I build that commit, Audacity freezes when I try to type a Japanese character.  If I build the previous commit, 98d86039316d87b7c81b97eb757b6af2b0c99728, there is no such freeze and I can type Japanese characters just fine.

 

But, it makes absolutely no sense to me.  That commit shouldn’t have anything at all to do with keyboard input.

 

Would be nice if someone else could confirm this as well.

 

From: Peter Sampson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 6:58 AM
To: Devel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >; Peter Sampson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [Audacity-devel] Japanese language issues

 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:40 AM Leland <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I was able to get past this by fixing Windows Update here, but it still didn’t correct the Audacity freeze.  The only thing that works for me so far is the workaround suggested by Microsoft.

 

I recall seeing on the Forum this morning that the Japanese user had fixed this freeze when hitting any key

 

And as Homer Simpson once so famously said:   "Where's the "Any" key?"

 

Peter.

 

 

 

From: Leland <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 6:31 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Audacity-devel] Japanese language issues

 

This might also have some relevance.  I happened to look into the Japanese language options and found this.  It shows that I DO have the language pack installed, but it did not install any typing support.  I’m trying to work through this now.

 



 

From: Leland <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 6:23 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Audacity-devel] Japanese language issues

 

I also ran in to that IME thing that pikap did.  Just add the Japanese language in Windows:

 

Settings -> Time & Language -> Language -> Preferred languages -> Add a language

 

This should also enable the Language toolbar to the Windows Taskbar.  If you open Audacity, change the language in the Taskbar to Japanese (don’t worry…you can change it back and nothing happens visually), and then press a key in Audacity, it will completely freeze.

 

And I just found some info and a workaround that works perfectly here:

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/you-might-have-issues-on-windows-10-version-20h2-and-windows-10-version-2004-when-using-some-microsoft-imes-63696506-47d2-9997-0b72-41a68e328692

 

Workaround

You can mitigate Issues 3, 5, 6 and 7 in the short term by following the steps below to enable compatibility mode:

1.       Select Start, type Settings, and select it or press enter.

2.       Type IME settings into the search box within Settings and select the IME settings that are appropriate to your language, for example Japanese IME Settings.

3.       Select General.

4.       Turn on Use previous version of Microsoft IME.

Note We do not recommend using the compatibility setting for the long term, but rather as a temporary workaround for users who are impacted by this issue.

 

From: Steve Fiddle <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 4:34 AM
To: Audacity-Devel list <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: [Audacity-devel] Japanese language issues

 

For any devs looking into the Japanese language issue(s), there's additional information in this forum topic that may be useful: https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=46 <https://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=116720> &t=116720

 

Steve

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