Fwd: Bitwig Studio sources

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Hello Helios.

Bitwig is a company which produces a proprietary DAW called Bitwig Studio
and the full source code for BitWig Studio is not on Github.  I can see how
you might think it was, especially if you are not a developer yourself.
 The existence of a company named X having some repositories on Github
which are public does not mean that their main commercial products are
actually fully open to you to view, somehow.  No they are not.

And yet, even if they were, the Audacity team is bound by international
copyright law not to introduce any code into Audacity that is not open
source licensed. Even if someone were to send someone a zip of the source
code of something closed source and commercial, we would not look at it, as
that would potentially open us up to liability.

What is open source that bitwig provides are the following 16 public
visible repositories containing little toys, accessories, or side projects:
https://github.com/orgs/bitwig/repositories

The one audacity developers and users would be most interested in I think
is that Bitwig is trying to promote a cross-DAW standard for project
interoperability.
https://github.com/bitwig/dawproject

If this standard was to be used in Audacity, or other open source projects
(like Ardour) then you could export a project with stems and probably have
it open up with all the audio lined up as desired, in any supported DAW.
This would be a big step up from the current status quo which is the manual
exporting and importing and alignment of stems (if the stem audio doesn't
all have silent padding in the front to make lining it all up easier).

Hope this helps you understand that Bitwig's full source code isn't visible
to the public.   You might also stumble on Microsoft's github profile, or
think that Microsoft, who owns github has decided to publish all the source
code to Microsoft Office or Windows 11, but that also has not happened, and
won't happen.



On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 8:13 AM Helios Martinez Dominguez <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Greetings!
>
> I just wanted to share some source code I have found interesting to give a
> look. It is about Bitwig Studio's sources which appear published at GitHub
> (Here: https://github.com/bitwig).
>
> Bitwig Studio is an interesting Full capability DAW and its code might be
> useful to increase functionality of Audacity's Interface and Functions.
> Particularly real-time effects, slip edition (not just shuffle),
> interesting time stretching/pitch shifting algorithms, midi sequencing,
> external control support, etc. Particularly, I am an extensive Audacity
> user, nevertheless, Bitwig Studio interface and workflow seem really
> appealing to me. The only problem is that its license is proprietary, while
> Audacity's is Open. Please, take some time to check which functionality
> might be interesting (and viable) to introduce to Audacity for it to be
> enhanced as a DAW. Thanks in advance.
> _______________________________________________
> audacity-devel mailing list
> [email protected]
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello Helios.<div><br></div><div>Bitwig is a company which=
 produces a proprietary DAW called Bitwig Studio and the full source code f=
or BitWig Studio is not on Github.=C2=A0 I can see how you might think it w=
as, especially if you are not a developer yourself.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The existen=
ce of a company named X having some repositories on Github which are public=
 does not mean that their main commercial products are actually fully open =
to you to view, somehow.=C2=A0 No they are not.</div><div><br></div><div>An=
d yet, even if they were, the Audacity team is bound by international copyr=
ight law not to introduce any code into Audacity that is not open source li=
censed. Even if someone were to send someone a zip of the source code of so=
mething closed source and commercial, we would not look at it, as that woul=
d potentially open us up to liability.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>What =
is open source that bitwig provides are the following 16 public visible rep=
ositories containing little toys, accessories, or side projects:=C2=A0<a hr=
ef=3D"https://github.com/orgs/bitwig/repositories">https://github.com/orgs/=
bitwig/repositories</a></div><div><br>The one audacity developers and users=
 would be most interested in I think is that Bitwig is trying to promote a =
cross-DAW standard for project interoperability.</div><div><a href=3D"https=
://github.com/bitwig/dawproject">https://github.com/bitwig/dawproject</a><b=
r></div><div><br></div><div>If this standard was to be used in Audacity, or=
 other open source projects (like Ardour) then you could export a project w=
ith stems and probably have it open up with all the audio lined up as desir=
ed, in any supported DAW. This would be a big step up from the current stat=
us quo which is the manual exporting and importing and alignment of stems (=
if the stem audio doesn&#39;t all have silent padding in the front to make =
lining it all up easier).</div><div><br></div><div>Hope this helps you unde=
rstand that Bitwig&#39;s full source code isn&#39;t visible to the public.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0You might also stumble on Microsoft&#39;s github profile, or t=
hink that Microsoft, who owns github has decided to publish all the source =
code to Microsoft Office or Windows 11, but that also has not happened, and=
 won&#39;t happen.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 =
at 8:13 AM Helios Martinez Dominguez &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:helios.cobain.st=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68)">Greetings!</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68)"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68)">I just wanted to share some sour=
ce code I have found interesting to give a look. It is about Bitwig Studio&=
#39;s sources which appear published at GitHub (Here: <a href=3D"https://gi=
thub.com/bitwig" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/bitwig</a>).<br><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(68,68,68)">Bitwig Stud=
io is an interesting Full capability DAW and its code might be useful to in=
crease functionality of Audacity&#39;s Interface and Functions. Particularl=
y real-time effects, slip edition (not just shuffle), interesting time stre=
tching/pitch shifting algorithms, midi sequencing, external control support=
, etc. Particularly, I am an extensive Audacity user, nevertheless, Bitwig =
Studio interface and workflow seem really appealing to me. The only problem=
 is that its license is proprietary, while Audacity&#39;s is Open. Please, =
take some time to check which functionality might be interesting (and viabl=
e) to introduce to Audacity for it to be enhanced as a DAW. Thanks in advan=
ce.<br></div></div>
_______________________________________________<br>
audacity-devel mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">a=
[email protected]</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/audacity-devel" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listi=
nfo/audacity-devel</a><br>
</blockquote></div>

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