RE: Mono
"Sibbald, Alister" <[email protected]>
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I'm not sure that's right Jack. If the programme material is Mono, then by definition both channels must be identical. It is either a historical recording, which came from a single track mono tape, or a more modern mix-down to mono, which results in the same thing ( although I'm not sure why anyone would want to do the latter ). Either way, if the source was a single mono channel, the CD creation process should simply have duplicated that Mono channel on both Left and Right. Therefore, if Boris is getting different data, I can only see two possibilities: 1 The CD is simply mis-labelled and is not in fact Mono. In other words, Paranoia is doing it's job correctly, but the source data really is different. I can't see there is much potential for this. CD Publishers are unlikely to label something Mono unless they really have to, for obvious marketing reasons. 2 The CD is Mono, but Paranoia is not correcting all errors. It may for example be interpolating over errors in one channel but not having to interpolate over errors at the same point in the other channel. Regards Alister -----Original Message----- From: Jack Pistachio [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 20 September 2003 08:27 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [paranoia] Mono Theoretically they should be the same. However, I would never expect the data to be exactly the same in a real world situation. Using diff or cmp for example on data retrieved from just the right or left channel would always differ as cd anomalies would lead paranoia or cdda2wav or whatever is used to cause at least a single slight sample difference. If the music had any slight tick, etc in it, this would surely be the case. The important part is that there should be no audible difference. --- "Sims, Ted" <[email protected]> wrote: > There's no such thing as a mono format CD, but the > program material might be > mono in which case the left and right channels should be > the same. If it > isn't, then something is very wrong. > -Ted > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Boris Shingarov" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 11:29 PM > Subject: [paranoia] Mono > > > > Hello, > > > > I have some CDs that are explicitly marked as mono. I > must have > > understood something incorrectly. When I extract raw > audio from > > those mono CDs, shouldn't the 'left' samples the same > as the > > 'right' samples? This is not what I am seeing here; > the data is > > never the same. Anyone willing to explain this? > > > > Boris > > > > --- >8 ---- > > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > > Paranoia homepage: http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/ > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > '[email protected]' > > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be > ignored/filtered. > > --- >8 ---- > List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ > Paranoia homepage: http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/ > To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to > '[email protected]' > containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No > subject is needed. > Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ Paranoia homepage: http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to '[email protected]' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail is intended only for the above addressee. It may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the information in it. If you have received it in error please delete it and immediately notify the sender. evolvebank.com is a division of Lloyds TSB Bank plc. Lloyds TSB Bank plc, 25 Gresham Street, London, EC2V 7HN. Registered in England, number 2065. Telephone No: 020 7626 1500 Lloyds TSB Scotland plc, Henry Duncan House, 120 George Street, Edinburgh EH2 4LH. Registered in Scotland, number 95237. Telephone No: 0131 225 4555 Lloyds TSB Bank plc and Lloyds TSB Scotland plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and represent only the Scottish Widows and Lloyds TSB Marketing Group for life assurance, pensions and investment business. Signatories to the Banking Codes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------