Re: Ripping physically scratched CD's

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On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Paolo Saggese <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2014-12-05 16:53, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >> refusing to rip a CD that is not perfectly readable is expected
> behavior;
> >> even, in a sense, the design goal.
> >
> > Well, not really.  Refusing to do what a user legitimately wants to do
> > is not a goal to strive for.
>

Yeah, that wasn't what I meant.  Perhaps "refusing" was the wrong word.


>
> perhaps you haven't got the whole point: cdparanoia is not about "just
> ripping" whatever, it is all about *perfect ripping*.
>
> What a typical cdparanoia user expect is that the rip is either perfect
> (a perfect copy of the original) or the whole process fail.
>
> That is, more or less the current default behavior.
>
> If you don't care about rip quality, there are really no reasons to use
> cdparanoia (or libparanoia) in the first place. You can use cdda2wav or
> any other (unsafe) ripping software instead.
>

That's what I meant.


>
> The only objection that I may rise WRT the current behavior is that IMO
> there should be some reasonable check/timeout so that, if a track or CD
> can not be ripped without errors within some reasonable amount of time,
> the software should fail returning a proper error rather than "hanging"
> trying and retrying forever.
>
>
> Paolo.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On F=
ri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Paolo Saggese <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On 2014-12-=
05 16:53, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> wrote:=
<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt; refusing to rip a CD that is not perfectly readable is expected be=
havior;<br>
&gt;&gt; even, in a sense, the design goal.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Well, not really.=C2=A0 Refusing to do what a user legitimately wants =
to do<br>
&gt; is not a goal to strive for.<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v>Yeah, that wasn&#39;t what I meant.=C2=A0 Perhaps &quot;refusing&quot; wa=
s the wrong word.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><spa=
n class=3D"">
<br>
</span>perhaps you haven&#39;t got the whole point: cdparanoia is not about=
 &quot;just<br>
ripping&quot; whatever, it is all about *perfect ripping*.<br>
<br>
What a typical cdparanoia user expect is that the rip is either perfect<br>
(a perfect copy of the original) or the whole process fail.<br>
<br>
That is, more or less the current default behavior.<br>
<br>
If you don&#39;t care about rip quality, there are really no reasons to use=
<br>
cdparanoia (or libparanoia) in the first place. You can use cdda2wav or<br>
any other (unsafe) ripping software instead.<br></blockquote><div><br></div=
><div>That&#39;s what I meant.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
<br>
The only objection that I may rise WRT the current behavior is that IMO<br>
there should be some reasonable check/timeout so that, if a track or CD<br>
can not be ripped without errors within some reasonable amount of time,<br>
the software should fail returning a proper error rather than &quot;hanging=
&quot;<br>
trying and retrying forever.<br>
<br>
<br>
Paolo.<br>
<br>
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