Re: Moving discussion off flac-dev to somewhere else

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Agreed.  21 year reader here.  It's been sad to see this end.


On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 4:53=E2=80=AFPM Federico Miyara <[email protected].=
edu.ar>
wrote:

>
> Dear Martijn,
>
> I'm one of those longtimers (at least 12 years) and in that period I've
> read nearly 2500 messages. If asked I would prefer that the list were
> kept. I probably wouldn't subscribe (or, rather, register)  to GitHub
> since I don't fully agree with the terms and conditions and I haven't a
> specific need (such as if I were really involved in a development
> project). But I understand that the spam issue may be quite bothersome.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Federico Miyara
>
>
> On 15/6/2025 16:15, Martijn van Beurden wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Until a few years ago, mailing lists were the primary tool for
> > communicating on the development FLAC and other Xiph projects.
> > However, for FLAC, discussions have moved mostly to GitHub. Other Xiph
> > project mailing lists have also mostly fallen silent. Spam is however
> > still as much an issue as ever. if not worse with the advent of LLMs.
> > Maintenance of those lists is therefore a burden that is increasingly
> > disproportional to their use.
> >
> > So, there is a proposal to close the flac and flac-dev mailing lists.
> > For the flac mailing list (for user questions) I'd say that is a done
> > deal: nothing of much value happens there anymore. The flac-dev
> > mailing list however has quite a few longtimers listening in and
> > occasionally replying. This is especially valuable to have different
> > perspectives when a new feature or functional changes get proposed.
> > I'd like to know whether you would be willing to move over to GitHub
> > discussions. GitHub would be the first choice because most discussions
> > already happen there anyway.
> >
> > I'd like to hear some opinions on this matter.
> >
> > Kind regards, Martijn van Beurden
> > _______________________________________________
> > flac-dev mailing list -- [email protected]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Agreed.=C2=A0 21 year reader here.=C2=A0 It&#39;s bee=
n sad to see this end.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Ju=
n 15, 2025 at 4:53=E2=80=AFPM Federico Miyara &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fmiyara=
@fceia.unr.edu.ar">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Dear Martijn,<br>
<br>
I&#39;m one of those longtimers (at least 12 years) and in that period I&#3=
9;ve <br>
read nearly 2500 messages. If asked I would prefer that the list were <br>
kept. I probably wouldn&#39;t subscribe (or, rather, register)=C2=A0 to Git=
Hub <br>
since I don&#39;t fully agree with the terms and conditions and I haven&#39=
;t a <br>
specific need (such as if I were really involved in a development <br>
project). But I understand that the spam issue may be quite bothersome.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Federico Miyara<br>
<br>
<br>
On 15/6/2025 16:15, Martijn van Beurden wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi all,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Until a few years ago, mailing lists were the primary tool for<br>
&gt; communicating on the development FLAC and other Xiph projects.<br>
&gt; However, for FLAC, discussions have moved mostly to GitHub. Other Xiph=
<br>
&gt; project mailing lists have also mostly fallen silent. Spam is however<=
br>
&gt; still as much an issue as ever. if not worse with the advent of LLMs.<=
br>
&gt; Maintenance of those lists is therefore a burden that is increasingly<=
br>
&gt; disproportional to their use.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So, there is a proposal to close the flac and flac-dev mailing lists.<=
br>
&gt; For the flac mailing list (for user questions) I&#39;d say that is a d=
one<br>
&gt; deal: nothing of much value happens there anymore. The flac-dev<br>
&gt; mailing list however has quite a few longtimers listening in and<br>
&gt; occasionally replying. This is especially valuable to have different<b=
r>
&gt; perspectives when a new feature or functional changes get proposed.<br=
>
&gt; I&#39;d like to know whether you would be willing to move over to GitH=
ub<br>
&gt; discussions. GitHub would be the first choice because most discussions=
<br>
&gt; already happen there anyway.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;d like to hear some opinions on this matter.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Kind regards, Martijn van Beurden<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; flac-dev mailing list -- <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br>
&gt; To unsubscribe send an email to <a href=3D"mailto:flac-dev-leave@xiph.=
org" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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