Re: Moving discussion off flac-dev to somewhere else

"Jim Gray" <[email protected]> Mon, 16 Jun 2025 07:28:34 +0000
Newsgroups	gmane.comp.audio.compression.flac.devel
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
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Hi Martijn!=0AI'm not really active on this email list, but I enjoy readi=
ng the=0Aupdates.=0AI got my PhD in Computer Science in 1993, and from wh=
at I've seen,=0Atechnology comes and goes.  In the current case, email is=
 becoming less=0Arelevant, and github is becoming more relevant.  And for=
 me, I try to=0Akeep up with the times.  I already have a github account =
for other=0Apurposes, so I'm happy to migrate over there.=0AIn any case, =
I appreciate all the work you (and others) do on FLAC.  So,=0AI will happ=
ily support any decision you make.=0AAll the best,=0AJim-----------------=
-------=0A=0AOn Sun, 15 June 2025 at 12:15 PM, Martijn van Beurden=0A<mva=
[email protected]> wrote:=0A>=0A> Hi all,=0A>=0A> Until a few years ago, mail=
ing lists were the primary tool for=0A> communicating on the development =
FLAC and other Xiph projects.=0A> However, for FLAC, discussions have mov=
ed mostly to GitHub. Other Xiph=0A> project mailing lists have also mostl=
y fallen silent. Spam is however=0A> still as much an issue as ever. if n=
ot worse with the advent of LLMs.=0A> Maintenance of those lists is there=
fore a burden that is increasingly=0A> disproportional to their use.=0A>=
=0A> So, there is a proposal to close the flac and flac-dev mailing lists=
.=0A> For the flac mailing list (for user questions) I'd say that is a do=
ne=0A> deal: nothing of much value happens there anymore. The flac-dev=0A=
> mailing list however has quite a few longtimers listening in and=0A> oc=
casionally replying. This is especially valuable to have different=0A> pe=
rspectives when a new feature or functional changes get proposed.=0A> I'd=
 like to know whether you would be willing to move over to GitHub=0A> dis=
cussions. GitHub would be the first choice because most discussions=0A> a=
lready happen there anyway.=0A>=0A> I'd like to hear some opinions on thi=
s matter.=0A>=0A> Kind regards, Martijn van Beurden=0A> _________________=
______________________________=0A> flac-dev mailing list -- flac-dev@xiph=
.org (mailto:[email protected])=0A> To unsubscribe send an email to flac-=
[email protected]=0A> (mailto:[email protected])

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"><div style=3D"font-family: Sans Serif; font-size: 16px"></div>Hi Martij=
n!<div><br></div><div>I'm not really active on this email list, but I enj=
oy reading the updates.</div><div><br></div><div>I got my PhD in Computer=
 Science in 1993, and from what I've seen, technology comes and goes.=C2=
=A0 In the current case, email is becoming less relevant, and github is b=
ecoming more relevant.=C2=A0 And for me, I try to keep up with the times.=
=C2=A0 I already have a github account for other purposes, so I'm happy t=
o migrate over there.</div><div><br></div><div>In any case, I appreciate =
all the work you (and others) do on FLAC.=C2=A0 So, I will happily suppor=
t any decision you make.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,<div><div =
data-crea=3D"font-wrapper" style=3D"font-family: ; font-size: 16px; direc=
tion: "><div data-crea=3D"font-wrapper"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial=
, sans-serif;">Jim</span></div><div data-crea=3D"font-wrapper"><font face=
=3D"Arial, sans-serif">------------------------</font></div></div></div><=
br><br><div data-anchor=3D"reply-title">On Sun, 15 June 2025 at 12:15 PM,=
 Martijn van Beurden &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote><di=
v>Hi all,<br><br>Until a few years ago, mailing lists were the primary to=
ol for<br>communicating on the development FLAC and other Xiph projects.<=
br>However, for FLAC, discussions have moved mostly to GitHub. Other Xiph=
<br>project mailing lists have also mostly fallen silent. Spam is however=
<br>still as much an issue as ever. if not worse with the advent of LLMs.=
<br>Maintenance of those lists is therefore a burden that is increasingly=
<br>disproportional to their use.<br><br>So, there is a proposal to close=
 the flac and flac-dev mailing lists.<br>For the flac mailing list (for u=
ser questions) I'd say that is a done<br>deal: nothing of much value happ=
ens there anymore. The flac-dev<br>mailing list however has quite a few l=
ongtimers listening in and<br>occasionally replying. This is especially v=
aluable to have different<br>perspectives when a new feature or functiona=
l changes get proposed.<br>I'd like to know whether you would be willing =
to move over to GitHub<br>discussions. GitHub would be the first choice b=
ecause most discussions<br>already happen there anyway.<br><br>I'd like t=
o hear some opinions on this matter.<br><br>Kind regards, Martijn van Beu=
rden<br>_______________________________________________<br>flac-dev maili=
ng list -- <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=
=3D"external" style=3D"cursor: inherit;">[email protected]</a><br>To unsu=
bscribe send an email to <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:flac-dev-lea=
[email protected]" class=3D"external" style=3D"cursor: inherit;">flac-dev-leave=
@xiph.org</a></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>

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