Re: Flac Digest, Vol 117, Issue 4
Scott Sims <[email protected]> Wed, 22 Jan 2025 00:28:49 +1030
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--===============8530743636722074636== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000059e6de062c3a58f4" --00000000000059e6de062c3a58f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have to say after ripping 3000+ CD's with dBpoweramp, I've never encountered or cared about this kind of error.... -- Scott Sims Mobile: 0403 969 003 Email: [email protected] On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 at 03:20, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send Flac mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/flac > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Flac digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Duplicate Tag (Dave B) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 20:47:45 +0000 > From: Dave B <[email protected]> > To: brianw <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Flac] Duplicate Tag > Message-ID: > < > DM5PR0201MB339897AABD975BCFC38452A1B8E72@DM5PR0201MB3398.namprd02.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Thank for the replay Brian. > > My intent is to remove a ?custom? tag that inadvertently ended up with a > with the space in it?s name (Song Rating) and replace it with a tag with no > space (SongRating). > My working file is WorkingMan.flac > > If I run the metaflac command: > metaflac --show-tag="Song Rating" --show-tag=SongRating WorkingMan.flac > I see the following: > Note there is a duplicate tag (one with a value and one with no value). > Case explained to me that a duplicate tag is not necessarily unwanted. > [cid:fc74d701-df5b-496d-b73b-ce2db2ce3ba6] > From within dBpoweramp I deleted the SONG RATING tag (2nd from the bottom) > [cid:424e371a-639e-4044-9fc7-b8fc7db2c69a] > > Then re-run the same metaflac command > metaflac --show-tag="Song Rating" --show-tag=SongRating WorkingMan.flac > I now see: > [cid:32e3247e-e942-4359-9e8c-0756866324dc] > > That not only removed the tag that I actually wanted to delete, it also > removed the duplicated tag that had no value. > ?I must say I am confused. > So now the question begs to be asked. If there are 2 tags, or more, with > the same name. One with a value and one without, or for that matter they > both have values and you want to remove a specific one. How would I do > that. If I use the metaflac command: > metaflac --remove-tag=SongRating WorkingMan_Copy.flac > it removes both. > [cid:c8bed3b0-23ca-4576-87c3-2e6c6d96d839] > > It seems the deep I go the more confused I am getting. > Thanks > Dave > > ________________________________ > From: brianw <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:44 PM > To: Dave B <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Flac] Duplicate Tag > > Hi Dave, > > I haven't reviewed metaflac to see whether its algorithm might incorrectly > show a tag twice. It's possible that dBpoweramp appended a tag that already > existed. I imagine that if metaflac says there's an occurrence of the tag > with no value, and another with a value, then that's probably accurate. Can > you show the output of metaflac? That might help verify. > > You could use other tools, like "hexdump -C path/filename" although it > seems that you're on Windows, so you might not have that. Anyway, hexdump > would show the raw file data, and then you could search for the 4-character > tag to see whether it actually appears once or twice in the file. > > I'd be tempted to write a simple tool that only shows FLAC chunks as tag > and size, but it's probably quicker to review metaflac to see whether it is > correct. > > Brian > > > On Jan 19, 2025, at 11:30 AM, Dave B. wrote: > > If I run the metaflac command, "metaflac --show-all-tags > path\filename". There is a tag that is listed twice. Only one of the tags > has a value. This seems to be the case for all of my flac files. I ripped > these with dBpoweramp and this tag was added/defined as a "custom" tag. > > > > I can run the same command using exiftool, "exiftool --tag-all > path\filename" and I only see the single tag, the one that has a value is > the one listed. If I look that this same file with MP3Tag "Extended Tags" > I also only see it listed once, the one with the value. > > > > Does anyone know why it might be listed twice using metaflac. I thought > metaflac would be the better tool since it is the "official" tool, at least > I assume it is. Exiftool will read flac files but will not write to them, > so I wonder if I am getting a complete list from it. And MP3Tag has me > wondering, because of the name. I dont care ? OR WANT ? mp3 tags. I only > want FLAC tags. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on me. > > > > Thanks > > Dave > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment.htm > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.png > Type: image/png > Size: 89255 bytes > Desc: image.png > URL: < > http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment.png > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.png > Type: image/png > Size: 14664 bytes > Desc: image.png > URL: < > http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment-0001.png > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.png > Type: image/png > Size: 18178 bytes > Desc: image.png > URL: < > http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment-0002.png > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.png > Type: image/png > Size: 39686 bytes > Desc: image.png > URL: < > http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment-0003.png > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Flac mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/flac > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Flac Digest, Vol 117, Issue 4 > ************************************ > --00000000000059e6de062c3a58f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I have to say after ripping 3000+ CD's with=C2=A0= dBpoweramp, I've never encountered=C2=A0or cared about this kind of err= or....</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail= =3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"aut= o" style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)">--</div><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color:r= gb(34,34,34)"><span>Scott</span>=C2=A0<span>Sims</span></div><div dir=3D"au= to" style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)">Mobile: 0403 969 003</div><div dir=3D"aut= o" style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34)">Email:=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:scott@aceblu= e.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target= =3D"_blank"><span>scott</span>@aceblue.com</a></div></div></div></div></div= ></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 at 03:20, <<a href= =3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br><= /div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo= rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send Flac mailing li= st submissions to<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bla= nk">[email protected]</a><br> <br> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listin= fo/flac" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.xiph.org/mailman= /listinfo/flac</a><br> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> <br> You can reach the person managing the list at<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> <br> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br> than "Re: Contents of Flac digest..."<br> <br> <br> Today's Topics:<br> <br> =C2=A0 =C2=A01. Re: Duplicate Tag (Dave B)<br> <br> <br> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 1<br> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 20:47:45 +0000<br> From: Dave B <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">d= [email protected]</a>><br> To: brianw <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"= >[email protected]</a>>, "<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" ta= rget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= " target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br> Subject: Re: [Flac] Duplicate Tag<br> Message-ID:<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <<a href=3D"mailto:DM5PR0201MB339897AABD975B= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank= ">DM5PR0201MB339897AABD975BCFC38452A1B8E72@DM5PR0201MB3398.namprd02.prod.ou= tlook.com</a>><br> <br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252"<br> <br> Thank for the replay Brian.<br> <br> My intent is to remove a ?custom? tag that inadvertently ended up with a wi= th the space in it?s name (Song Rating) and replace it with a tag with no s= pace (SongRating).<br> My working file is WorkingMan.flac<br> <br> If I run the metaflac command:<br> metaflac --show-tag=3D"Song Rating" --show-tag=3DSongRating Worki= ngMan.flac<br> I see the following:<br> Note there is a duplicate tag (one with a value and one with no value). Cas= e explained to me that a duplicate tag is not necessarily unwanted.<br> [cid:fc74d701-df5b-496d-b73b-ce2db2ce3ba6]<br> =C2=A0From within dBpoweramp I deleted the SONG RATING tag (2nd from the bo= ttom)<br> =C2=A0[cid:424e371a-639e-4044-9fc7-b8fc7db2c69a]<br> <br> Then re-run the same metaflac command<br> metaflac --show-tag=3D"Song Rating" --show-tag=3DSongRating Worki= ngMan.flac<br> I now see:<br> [cid:32e3247e-e942-4359-9e8c-0756866324dc]<br> <br> That not only removed the tag that I actually wanted to delete, it also rem= oved the duplicated tag that had no value.<br> ?I must say I am confused.<br> So now the question begs to be asked.=C2=A0 If there are 2 tags, or more,= =C2=A0 with the same name.=C2=A0 One with a value and one without, or for t= hat matter they both have values and you want to remove a specific one. How= would I do that.=C2=A0 If I use the metaflac command:<br> metaflac --remove-tag=3DSongRating WorkingMan_Copy.flac<br> it removes both.<br> [cid:c8bed3b0-23ca-4576-87c3-2e6c6d96d839]<br> <br> It seems the deep I go the more confused I am getting.<br> Thanks<br> Dave<br> <br> ________________________________<br> From: brianw <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blan= k">[email protected]</a>><br> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:44 PM<br> To: Dave B <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">dav= [email protected]</a>><br> Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> &l= t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><= br> Subject: Re: [Flac] Duplicate Tag<br> <br> Hi Dave,<br> <br> I haven't reviewed metaflac to see whether its algorithm might incorrec= tly show a tag twice. It's possible that dBpoweramp appended a tag that= already existed. I imagine that if metaflac says there's an occurrence= of the tag with no value, and another with a value, then that's probab= ly accurate. Can you show the output of metaflac? That might help verify.<b= r> <br> You could use other tools, like "hexdump -C path/filename" althou= gh it seems that you're on Windows, so you might not have that. Anyway,= hexdump would show the raw file data, and then you could search for the 4-= character tag to see whether it actually appears once or twice in the file.= <br> <br> I'd be tempted to write a simple tool that only shows FLAC chunks as ta= g and size, but it's probably quicker to review metaflac to see whether= it is correct.<br> <br> Brian<br> <br> <br> On Jan 19, 2025, at 11:30 AM, Dave B. wrote:<br> > If I run the metaflac command, "metaflac --show-all-tags path\fil= ename".=C2=A0 There is a tag that is listed twice.=C2=A0 Only one of t= he tags has a value.=C2=A0 This seems to be the case for all of my flac fil= es.=C2=A0 I ripped these with dBpoweramp and this tag was added/defined as = a "custom" tag.<br> ><br> > I can run the same command using exiftool, "exiftool --tag-all pa= th\filename" and I only see the single tag, the one that has a value i= s the one listed.=C2=A0 If I look that this same file with MP3Tag "Ext= ended Tags" I also only see it listed once, the one with the value.<br= > ><br> > Does anyone know why it might be listed twice using metaflac.=C2=A0 I = thought metaflac would be the better tool since it is the "official&qu= ot; tool, at least I assume it is.=C2=A0 Exiftool will read flac files but = will not write to them, so I wonder if I am getting a complete list from it= .=C2=A0 And MP3Tag has me wondering, because of the name.=C2=A0 I dont care= ? OR WANT ? mp3 tags.=C2=A0 I only want FLAC tags.<br> ><br> > Can anyone shed some light on me.<br> ><br> > Thanks<br> > Dave<br> <br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <<a href=3D"http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/202501= 20/b22cc336/attachment.htm" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lis= ts.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment.htm</a>= ><br> -------------- next part --------------<br> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br> Name: image.png<br> Type: image/png<br> Size: 89255 bytes<br> Desc: image.png<br> URL: <<a href=3D"http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/202501= 20/b22cc336/attachment.png" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://lis= ts.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment.png</a>= ><br> -------------- next part --------------<br> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br> Name: image.png<br> Type: image/png<br> Size: 14664 bytes<br> Desc: image.png<br> URL: <<a href=3D"http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/202501= 20/b22cc336/attachment-0001.png" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http:= //lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment-00= 01.png</a>><br> -------------- next part --------------<br> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br> Name: image.png<br> Type: image/png<br> Size: 18178 bytes<br> Desc: image.png<br> URL: <<a href=3D"http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/202501= 20/b22cc336/attachment-0002.png" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http:= //lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment-00= 02.png</a>><br> -------------- next part --------------<br> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br> Name: image.png<br> Type: image/png<br> Size: 39686 bytes<br> Desc: image.png<br> URL: <<a href=3D"http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/202501= 20/b22cc336/attachment-0003.png" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http:= //lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac/attachments/20250120/b22cc336/attachment-00= 03.png</a>><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Subject: Digest Footer<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Flac mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/flac" rel=3D"noreferrer" = target=3D"_blank">http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/flac</a><br> <br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> End of Flac Digest, Vol 117, Issue 4<br> ************************************<br> </blockquote></div> --00000000000059e6de062c3a58f4-- --===============8530743636722074636== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Flac mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/flac --===============8530743636722074636==--