Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] Re: [Csnd-dev] new API

I guess at this point the CI is not building the binaries, so you will need to build them yourself.
I still need to update Android and iOS though. They won’t build right now.

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Prof. Victor Lazzarini
Maynooth University
Ireland

> On 29 Jul 2024, at 10:39, Giovanni Bedetti <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> thanks a lot for this Victor.
> I wanted to try the new API on CsoundUnity, and I was wondering if the binaries for every platform are available somewhere, or if I should build them. 
> Thanks again
> 
> Il giorno dom 28 lug 2024 alle ore 16:09 vlz <[email protected]> ha scritto:
> I'll take a look.
> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
> Maynooth University
> Ireland
> 
>> On 28 Jul 2024, at 13:46, Tarmo Johannes <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> One more question:
>> CsoundQt uses csound_threaded.hpp  to support html files that us Csound.
>> The files is present in feature/newapi branch but not updated yet.
>> What are the plans with it? I am not sure, but I think MIchael Gogins wrote this wrapper?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> tarmo 
>> 
>> Kontakt Victor Lazzarini (<[email protected]>) kirjutas kuupäeval K, 24. juuli 2024 kell 22:42:
>> Thanks for this.
>> 
>> For csoundCompileCsd(), my thought was consolidation but of course with the mode parameter, it can be extendable.
>> 
>> I am hoping François and Steven who have been writing wrappers will be able to steer the API to a good state with regards to other languages.
>> 
>> 
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini 
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>> 
>>> On 24 Jul 2024, at 20:07, Michael Gogins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
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>>> Looks OK to me. My main concerns: 
>>> 
>>> (1) Be able to compile a CSD as a text blob as well as from a filename. Using a flag in csoundCompileCsd looks like it should do that, and may be better in that it allows changing the CSD from blob to filename at run time.
>>> 
>>> (2) Keep all API calls easy to wrap in other language interfaces, especially Python and JavaScript. That doesn't seem to have changed.
>>> 
>>> I may have suggested that the function pointers in the CSOUND_ struct should really be in an array, as in a C++ class, such that adding to this array does not change the size of the actual CSOUND_ struct. Please give that a thought.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----------------------------------------------------
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 12:32 PM vlz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I started work on the new API following some of François’ recommendations. The idea is to consolidate the
>>> interface, make it simpler and start removing functionality that has not been used by hosts since 6.x. 
>>> 
>>> I have completed a minimal set in the feature/moduleapi branch. The relevant files are csound_new.h
>>> (the API proper) and csoundCore_new.h (with some additions relating to changes). 
>>> 
>>> Not all of the API is implemented (I will start working on it next), but it’s out there now for comment.
>>> 
>>> Most notably, the following things have changed:
>>> 
>>> 1) The number of compilation function variants is reduced.
>>> 
>>> 2) We are not exposing the buffering anymore, so csoundPerformBuffer() is gone. This has been
>>> hardly used, host developers seem to prefer access to spin/spout. The single-short csoundPerform() is
>>> also gone, it is easily duplicated by csoundPerfomKsmps() in a loop.
>>> 
>>> 3) Audio IO callback setting has been removed, for similar reasons.
>>> 
>>> 4) MIDIO IO callback setting has been consolidated into a single function.
>>> 
>>> 5) Functions for events and table access were consolidated. Graphing callbacks etc are also removed since
>>> hosts can just read from tables and do their own displays as they see fit.
>>> 
>>> 6) Interfaces to threading, circular buffers, etc are gone.
>>> 
>>> 7) Cscore functions are gone.
>>> 
>>> 8) UDP server functions are gone (this functionality is offered by options, so there is no need to duplicate it here).
>>> 
>>> The idea is to make it less overwhelming for host developers. 
>>> 
>>> Victor