Re: [Csnd-dev] [EXTERNAL] [Csnd-dev] crash in csound_rtio

Eduardo Moguillansky <[email protected]> Sun, 12 Jul 2026 17:51:53 +0200
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Looking at the code, I don't see a way to disable csound from looking into
the user plugins dir. It can be disabled at the cmake level. A flag to
disable this would be great. I can make a PR with that change.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2026 at 5:47=E2=80=AFPM Eduardo Moguillansky <
[email protected]> wrote:

> yes, I meant OPCODE7DIR64
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2026 at 12:51=E2=80=AFAM Victor Lazzarini <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> OPCODE7DIR64 do you mean? Are you using floats?
>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>> Maynooth University
>> Ireland
>>
>> On 11 Jul 2026, at 20:39, Eduardo Moguillansky <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> I see the problem now, csound seems to still look in the default user
>> path for plugins, even if OPCODE7DIR is set. Thanks for the heads-up
>> regarding ABI changes
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2026 at 6:17=E2=80=AFPM Victor Lazzarini <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> By the way, the ABI has changed - maybe this is the reason? Was the
>>>  binary recompiled and re-linked?
>>>
>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>> On 11 Jul 2026, at 17:12, Victor Lazzarini <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> midiGlobals is allocated in csoundReset(), it looks like something goin=
g
>>> very wrong for it to be NULL.
>>>
>>> Maybe a backtrace may give some clues.
>>>
>>> Prof. Victor Lazzarini
>>> Maynooth University
>>> Ireland
>>>
>>> On 11 Jul 2026, at 16:42, Eduardo Moguillansky <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> =EF=BB=BF
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>>> I am getting a confusing crash with latest develop. The csound binary
>>> crashes (even if csound is called without any args)
>>> within csoundSetExternalMidiErrorStringCallback in csound_rtio.c
>>>
>>> void
>>> csoundSetExternalMidiErrorStringCallback(CSOUND *csound,
>>>                                          const char *(*func)(int32_t)) =
{
>>>   csound->midiGlobals->MidiErrorStringCallback =3D func;
>>> }
>>>
>>> csound->midiGlobals seems to be null, but maybe the problem is that thi=
s
>>> function is being called at all?
>>>
>>> If I comment the line "csound->midiGlobals..." out, the crash is gone.
>>>
>>> best regards,
>>> Eduardo
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Looking at the code, I don&#39;t see a way to disable csou=
nd from looking into the user plugins dir. It can be disabled at the cmake =
level. A flag to disable this would be great. I can make a PR with=C2=A0tha=
t change.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 12, 2026 at 5:47=E2=80=AFPM Edua=
rdo Moguillansky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">edua=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">yes, I meant OPCODE7DIR64</div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun,=
 Jul 12, 2026 at 12:51=E2=80=AFAM Victor Lazzarini &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:00=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">000010b1=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



<div dir=3D"auto">
OPCODE7DIR64 do you mean? Are you using floats?<br id=3D"m_-891493534175536=
7834m_-1537109220017533463lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Prof. Victor Lazzarini
<div>Maynooth University</div>
<div>Ireland</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On 11 Jul 2026, at 20:39, Eduardo Moguillansky &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">eduar=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr">I see the problem now, csound seems to still look in the d=
efault user path for plugins, even if OPCODE7DIR is set. Thanks for the hea=
ds-up regarding ABI changes</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 11, 2026 at 6:17=E2=80=AF=
PM Victor Lazzarini &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@li=
stserv.heanet.ie" target=3D"_blank">000010b17ddd988e-dmarc-request@listserv=
.heanet.ie</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div>By the way, the ABI has changed - maybe this is the reason? Was the =
=C2=A0binary recompiled and re-linked?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Prof. Victor Lazzarini
<div>Maynooth University</div>
<div>Ireland</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On 11 Jul 2026, at 17:12, Victor Lazzarini &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr">midiGlobals is allocated in csoundReset(), it looks like s=
omething going very wrong for it to be NULL.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Maybe a backtrace may give some clues.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Prof. Victor Lazzarini
<div>Maynooth University</div>
<div>Ireland</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On 11 Jul 2026, at 16:42, Eduardo Moguillansky &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">eduar=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
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</div>
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<div>I am getting a confusing crash with latest develop. The csound binary =
crashes (even if csound is called without any args) within=C2=A0csoundSetEx=
ternalMidiErrorStringCallback in csound_rtio.c</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>void<br>
csoundSetExternalMidiErrorStringCallback(CSOUND *csound,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0co=
nst char *(*func)(int32_t)) {<br>
=C2=A0 csound-&gt;midiGlobals-&gt;MidiErrorStringCallback =3D func;<br>
}</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>csound-&gt;midiGlobals seems to be null, but maybe the problem is that=
 this function is being called at all?=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If I comment the line &quot;csound-&gt;midiGlobals...&quot; out, the c=
rash is gone.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>best regards,</div>
<div>Eduardo</div>
</div>
</div>
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