Re: wordpad

"James Cairney" <[email protected]> Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:28:17 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.csound.tekno
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Thanks for all the help

>From: Iain Duncan <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "Making electronic dance music with 
>csound."<[email protected]>
>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound." <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:08:12 -0700
>
>Python is well worth learning, you'll find eleventy billion uses for it 
>once you know it. Working in csound, you will find yourself doing a lot 
>with text, and working with a lot of small text files from the command 
>line. I use python tons to automate tasks that are otherwise low points of 
>working with csound. Write a python script to do it for you and attach it 
>to a key binding from gvim, and suddenly it's a pleasure! In addition, Mike 
>has added python to csound itself for doing algorythmic composition, the 
>new API ( of which Mike is one of designers ) makes it fairly easy to 
>control csound from a python script, and gvim can embed python as well, 
>meaning you can write python functions in gvim that both control gvim and 
>hack on text. I made a whole bunch of them that turn my gvim station into a 
>cross between a tracker and a spreadsheet for editing my step-sequence 
>score files. Most useful for me are all the text hacking functions, regular 
>expressions, and directory and file i/o.
>
>As for editors, gvim is a gui based version of vim, the big unix editor. It 
>works on all platforms, and on windows it can even be used with a bunch of 
>windows key strokes. The main difference is that gvim is modal, and emacs 
>isn't. You should probably try both and pick whichever you like. John 
>Ffitch and Stephane are big emacsers, Istvan Varga is a vi freak, so 
>there's no one answer. Those guys have all added coloured syntax 
>highlighting for csound to the editors, which sure makes editing and 
>debugging csound nicer.
>
>If I were giving advice to someone wanting to do what I'm doing now, what I 
>would do differently is:
>
>- learn linux sooner
>- learn gvim ( really learn it ) sooner
>- learn python sooner
>- learn regular expressions sooner
>- start making some scripts combining the above for the hell of it
>
>I'm nutty busy this week so I don't have much time to do documentation, but 
>I could stick up some of the example python scripts and gvim/python scripts 
>I use if you want to see what can be done with them.
>
>Hope that is useful!
>Iain
>
>Richard Burford wrote:
>>Mike,
>>
>>Thanks very much for that.  I'll go check it out now.  I'm trying to learn
>>python at the moment, not quite sure why but there ya go.  It's good to 
>>keep
>>on learning new things I guess.
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
>>Sent: 19 July 2005 15:06
>>To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
>>Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>Sorry, my mistake. It is scintilla, or to be really precise SciTE, not
>>scitex:
>>
>>http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html
>>
>>This is better than emacs for lots of things especially if you are used to
>>Windows style key bindings, and of course takes up much much less room 
>>than
>>emacs. What is lacking is source level debugging.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Richard Burford <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Jul 19, 2005 9:05 AM
>>To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" 
>><[email protected]>
>>Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>I did that already man!
>>
>>I could not find anything but printer and graphics stuff for Scitex which 
>>I
>>assume, perhaps incorrectly, is unrelated to wordpad.
>>
>>Gvim is a linux based text editor for programming with highlighted text
>>colours etc??
>>
>>Rich
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [email protected]
>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Gogins
>>Sent: 19 July 2005 13:32
>>To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>Google.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Burford" 
>><[email protected]>
>>To: "'Making electronic dance music with csound.'" 
>><[email protected]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 7:09 AM
>>Subject: RE: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>
>>
>>
>>>What are Scitex and gvim?
>>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected]
>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Iain Duncan
>>>Sent: 18 July 2005 20:58
>>>To: Making electronic dance music with csound.
>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>
>>>
>>>>blue. It's great, and it's got looping options, which
>>>>makes it more friendly to techno/contemporary music
>>>>development.
>>>
>>>Yeah, Steven's stuff is very cool. My long range plan is to streamline
>>>all my python composition tools, rewrite my user interface stuff in
>>>C/C++ so as to be able to use those languages for large code management,
>>>and then work on a way to integrate them with something like blue.
>>>That'll be a ways a way though. ; )
>>>
>>>Iain
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--- Iain Duncan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Personally, I'm into gvim. It's really easy to
>>>>>script gvim using Python,
>>>>>which I already use, instead of having to learn
>>>>>lisp. I've found that
>>>>>extremely handy for patching instruments and scores
>>>>>when I'm going to
>>>>>make a similar change to a whole wack of files or
>>>>>sections.
>>>>>
>>>>>What does everyone else use?
>>>>>
>>>>>Iain
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael Gogins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Scitex is an excellent choice, more intuitive than
>>>>>
>>>>>Emacs yet quite functional.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Iain Duncan <[email protected]>
>>>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2005 4:47 PM
>>>>>>To: "Making electronic dance music with csound."
>>>>>
>>>>><[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [CsndTek] wordpad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James, it is well worth the time learning gvim or
>>>>>
>>>>>emacs. Just try and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>learn a few new features every week, and soon
>>>>>
>>>>>you'll be editing scores
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>and instruments several times as efficiently! =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Iain
>>>>>>
>>>>>>James Cairney wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Does anyone know if there is a program like
>>>>>
>>>>>wordpad with numbered rows.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>I heard somewhere that there is.  This would make
>>>>>
>>>>>it easier for when I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>get an error message for line 563!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>James
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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