Re: Re: [EAC] sacd

"Jeff [email protected] [EAC]" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.eac.user
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On 02/14/2017 02:32 AM, Fred Maxwell [email protected] [EAC] wrote:

>> Sony’s decision to so tightly lock down the SACD format is a big
> part of why it failed commercially.

I think it's a solution in search of a problem. As you suggest, 16/44.1 
is very good, so without a surround track, SACD doesn't offer much to 
most people. Worse, when Sony first started issuing them, they put out a 
ton of non-hybrid discs with no surround material, even in cases where 
historical quadraphonic mixes were in the vaults. So the shelves were 
full of expensive discs (often 1950s recordings!) that only worked in 
expensive players and didn't /really/ offer more than their CD 
counterparts. It wasn't until surround SACDs became more common that I 
bought in.

Even in the surround world, Sony made some bizarre decisions. They had a 
high-profile release of the Bob Dylan catalog in SACD a few years back. 
They did 5.1 mixes of quite a few albums, including at least one where 
that was a pretty pointless endevor. But Planet Waves, Nashville Skyline 
and Desire, all three of which were 1970s quadraphonic releases, were 
issued as stereo-only SACDs. Mind-boggling.

> The people who would be most enthusiastic about SACD are often
> the same ones who want to be able to rip audio from the discs
> they buy so that they can put them on home music servers,
> portable music players, and USB thumb drives for use in their cars.

I think that's very likely true now, but in Sony's defense (yes, I hate 
myself for saying that!), SACD was, at its introduction, at least in 
part a reaction to Napster and badly-extracted/encoded MP3s and crummy 
portables and all the other junk on the legitimate and illegitimate 
market at the time. My aging memory says there was a pretty significant 
time lag between when Those Darn Kids started trading their MP3s and the 
more serious listeners started using Squeezeboxes and other genuinely 
good devices. In 2017 we're gotten to the point where at least one 
“manufacturer” is shoving $80 worth of Raspberry Pi and HiFiBerry 
hardware into a fancy metal box and selling it for $1,500 but I don't 
think many were even dreaming of such a thing 15+ years ago.
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