Re: EOL

Don,

Good suggestion.  I had just been looking at just that prior to leaving the house a little after 2PM (2.75 hours ago).  There is a massive list of “members” whose email addresses have bounced messages — many for years.  Some have been bouncing since the early days of Napster. 

I had naively thought that Yahoo! would be smart enough to auto-delete members after some number of months or years of bouncing emails, or that they would have given me the ability to do so, but I can’t see any controls for doing that.  I don’t even see a way to sort the list by how long the messages have been bouncing.  Nor can I find a way to select all of the addresses on the bouncing list — just go through checking a thousand boxes by hand and then remove all that are checked (not likely — I’m way too lazy)

Perhaps someone in the group with more active experience managing Yahoo! groups can clue me in if I’ve missed something.

Regards,
  Fred Maxwell
  Moderator, Exact Audio Copy Yahoogroup

> On Nov 11, 2019, at 3:55 PM, Don R [email protected] [EAC] <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I’m curious if the statistics show what percentage of email addresses are bouncing if any?
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> 
> Don Resor 
> N6KAW
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> Sent from someone's iPhone
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>> On Nov 11, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Don R <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>> Currently the Seeburg jukebox list is moving to groups.io <http://groups.io/>.  The owner of the group is awaiting for the images, files and message archive to be in place on the new groups.io <http://groups.io/> list before admitting members to join.  This is to keep the message archive in numerical order and not “mix” it in with new posts.
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>> Currently the wait queue was 400+ for other list waiting for this to take place.
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>> I’m not suggesting in any way that Fred Maxwell act on his own,  not that he can do it alone, that is growing short, procrastination is the enemy.
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>> There are also website archive options, which was mentioned elsewhere.  I don’t have the link handy at the moment.
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>> If possible it would be nice to hear from the list owner as to his thoughts on this.
>> 
>> Don Resor 
>> N6KAW
>> 
>> Sent from someone's iPhone
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>>> On Nov 11, 2019, at 11:06 AM, Fred Maxwell [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EAC] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>   
>>> 
>>> Based on a sample of 1000 members (the most I can export):
>>> About 12% of members receive the messages as a “Daily Digest.”
>>> About 12% get only “Special Notices.”  This is where we might announce a new mailing list should one be created.
>>> Nearly half, 48%, get no emails, accessing the messages instead by web interface (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EAC/conversations/messages <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EAC/conversations/messages>).
>>> Twenty years worth of EAC group messages are available, in a searchable form, at that URL.
>>> All of those features go away on December 14, with all prior messages being deleted or otherwise made inaccessible by Yahoo.  
>>> 
>>> That means that for about 72% of members, the list will no longer work as it does now.
>>> 
>>> The loss of all of the prior messages is a crippling one, as those messages contain valuable information on EAC versions, settings, codecs, add-ons, compatibility, problem resolution, etc.
>>> 
>>> I remain skeptical about the long-term viability of Yahoo as a host for the EAC group.  I believe that this is the first step in Yahoo’s shutdown of their “Groups" service.  The stripping of feature is probably intended to drive groups to seek other service providers.  When Yahoo is satisfied that enough groups have left, I expect that they will announce a date for the complete shutdown of the Groups feature.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>>   Fred Maxwell
>>>   Moderator, Exact Audio Copy Yahoogroup
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 11, 2019, at 2:52 AM, Kit Kimes kitkimes-/[email protected] <mailto:kitkimes-/[email protected]> [EAC] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>> 
>>>> This is really nothing more than a email list.  We don't store files as part of the yahoo group.
>>>> When I first read Yahoo's email, I was concerned for all the groups I'm part of but really for 
>>>> most of them nothing is changing.
>>>> 
>>>> Kit Kimes 
>>>> Oswego, IL.
>>>> 
>>>> To believe all men honest would be folly. To believe none so is something worse.
>>>> John Quincy Adams, 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Sunday, November 10, 2019, 11:39:11 AM CST, Fred Maxwell [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EAC] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> The group is as live as the members make it — by posting (or not posting) messages.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I do not have permission from all of the members of this group to provide their email addresses to groups.io <http://groups.io/> or any other third party.  Nor is it my group to move — Andre is the owner of this group.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>>   Fred Maxwell
>>>>   Moderator, Exact Audio Copy Yahoogroup
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Michael Gillman [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EAC] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>>> This group seems to be dead. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 09:30 fpesposito-/[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> [EAC] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>>> Hello --- is anyone moving this group to groups.io <http://groups.io/>? 
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