Re: noise at the end of a track

Success!

I used Audacity to append the files for "Shine on you crazy diamond" parts
I-V and "Welcome to the Machine", and it plays fine.  No pop.

Audacity has various tools to eliminate a click at the end of a track.  It
gets difficult with stereo music, because the zero crossings for the two
tracks aren't at the same place.  I tried fading out "Shine on you crazy
diamond" in the last tenth of a second or so, but there was still a pop,
but less.

Laura

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 4:08 PM Laura <[email protected]> wrote:

> When I was experimenting in Audacity with trimming off the last little
> bit, the loudness of the pop varied a lot, depending on where I set the
> endpoint.
> So maybe I could look for a "zero-crossing point" manually that way - try
> different endpoints and find one where the pop is inaudible.
> What's the frequency at which the voltage is varying - the resolution for
> searching for a zero-crossing point?
> Laura
>
> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 6:41 AM Laura <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Zack said deleting the metadata didn't help.
>> I'm using the most recent version of EAC.
>> The track with the pop at the end is "Shine on on you crazy diamond"
>> parts I-V on "Wish You were Here".  It's the first track on the CD.
>> Zack said something I didn't understand, about maybe it wasn't actually
>> the end of the track.
>> But, " Shine on on you crazy diamond" parts VI-IX are the 5th track on
>> the CD.
>> Maybe "Shine on on you crazy diamond" is one recording and it got split
>> somehow into tracks 1 and 5, and that somehow causes a pop sound at the end
>> of track 1?
>> How could it be fixed, anyway?
>> Laura
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:58 PM Zack Berkovitz [email protected]
>> [EAC] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you post the wav to Onedrive, dropbox, or GDrive, I would test
>>> encoding it for you and see if I can reproduce the pop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Zack Berkovitz <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 7, 2020 12:52 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* RE: [EAC] noise at the end of a track
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Which version of EAC/flac did you use to encode? Which CD?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When encoding with FLAC, generally you want to use the option to delete
>>> foreign metadata:
>>>
>>> --no-keep-foreign-metadata
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This metadata isn’t the tag data, it’s WAV data that is used in some
>>> applications, but is generally useless in FLAC and mp3 files, per the
>>> documentation.  I use EAC to rip, but don’t use its built-in compressor
>>> support, so I’m not sure what the default options are if you are using it
>>> that way. It’s also easy to rewrite the tags using mp3tag (it works for
>>> FLAC). I like to name my files so all of the tags are in the filename as
>>> well, e.g.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Run the Jewels - RTJ4 - 07 - Ju$t (Ft. Pharrell Williams and Zach De La
>>> Rocha).flac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once you do that, you can just tell mp3tag to (re)write the tags using
>>> the filenames, or you can easily manually input them. You thread is timely,
>>> I just compiled FLAC 1.3.3 last night (to encode the new RTJ album), and
>>> was updating my settings for FLAC and lame.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would also try foobar2000 as I believe it’s the best player on
>>> Windows. You can try encoding the file with foobar, as it has flac support
>>> built-in. However, flac and mp3 decoders have been fairly (completely?)
>>> static for a long time, so WM, vlc, etc should be fine as players.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Zack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 7, 2020 11:21 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [EAC] noise at the end of a track
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If it's metadata being misread as audio, you could try a tag editor like
>>> Mp3tag (it's free) to remove all of the tags and see if that fixes the
>>> noise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 10:18 AM Laura [email protected] [EAC] <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I ripped a music CD with EAC to a FLAC file, and right at the end of
>>> one track there's a kind of staticky pop.
>>> The same thing happened when I imported it with iTunes in .wav format.
>>> But it doesn't happen when I play the CD directly.
>>> The staticky pop doesn't seem to be in the audio, because I used
>>> Audacity to trim off the last couple seconds of the track, and it's
>>> still there.
>>> Apparently, from googling, the pop comes from a tag (?) with metadata,
>>> that is being misread as part of the audio.
>>> I've been using Windows Media Player to play sound files - generally,
>>> it does very well.
>>> Can EAC be set to rip the CD without including this tag or whatever it
>>> is?
>>> Or could I maybe eliminate it in Audacity?
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>>
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