Re: old burned cd file in wav

"Harry [email protected] [EAC]" <[email protected]> Tue, 29 Sep 2020 14:22:02 -0600
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On 9/29/2020 11:44 AM, Fred Maxwell [email protected] [EAC] wrote:
>
> I also keep my collection as ALAC (AKA Apple Lossless) and I agree 
> with Mike regarding the standardization advantage it has. The ALAC 
> standards are well-documented by Apple. A simple test for ALAC files 
> is whether Apple’s music apps are ‘happy’ with them, play them, and 
> display the tag data properly. If a file doesn’t work with Apple’s own 
> apps, then there is almost certainly something wrong with the file.
>
>
> Like FLAC, ALAC is open source, with Apple having released the ALAC 
> source code under the Apache license almost a decade ago.
>
>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 8:24 PM, Mike Walsh [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EAC] <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wasn’t suggesting that, but flacs are a more ad hoc, de facto 
>> standard than m4a.
>>
>> Regardless, their tagging seems fine to me.
>>
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>> *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Frank 
>> Esposito fpesposito-/[email protected] <mailto:fpesposito-/[email protected]> [EAC] 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2020 7:52:09 PM
>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [EAC] old burned cd file in wav
>>
>> umm ...  do FLAC files not have "proper tagging?"
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 7:17 PM Mike Walsh [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [EAC] <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Not to beat a dead horse, but I’ll add this:
>>
>>     I would not ever keep a collection as wav.  I would do flac or
>>     alac. Personally I use alac for lossless..  Both save space and
>>     allow proper tagging.  And with eac, u can use accuraterip to
>>     ensure u got a bit perfect rip and fix the file (to match what
>>     the online dB says) if u didn’t.
>>
>>     Also, I have read u can add crc checks to flacs, which are
>>     helpful for when u copy or clone files etc.  with a scanner, u
>>     can see if the new file has the right crc, and if not, it means
>>     some errors (degradation) occurred when copying.  Personally, I
>>     don’t worry about this, it’s typically so small ud never notice
>>     and it doesn’t occur often to begin with.  but it’s good for
>>     those that do worry.  I use alac so the files are basically
>>     universal with apple or windows, but I am pretty sure it doesn’t
>>     support that feature.
>>
>>     Anyway, the simple answer is rip to flac or alac and don’t worry
>>     about much else.
>>
>>     -mdw
>>
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>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of
>>     'Joe' [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     [EAC] <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>     *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2020 1:35:59 AM
>>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>     *Subject:* RE: [EAC] old burned cd file in wav
>>
>>     *Thanks all for the excellent answers and education. I appreciate it*
>>
>>     **
>>
>>     *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>]
>>     *Sent:* Sunday, September 27, 2020 11:38 PM
>>     *To:* Fred Maxwell [email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]> [EAC] <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [EAC] old burned cd file in wav
>>
>>
>>
>>     > > I ask this because we all know that if you burn a video to
>>     lets say a dvd and then use that same dvd to burn another one
>>     there will be degradation.
>>
>>     Sorry that I am late to the party. But, I need to correct the above.
>>
>>     If you burn the video to DVD-ROM, say a MKV wrapped video, there
>>     will be
>>     no degradation. If you take that MKV file from the DVD-ROM and
>>     burn it to
>>     another DVD-ROM, again no degradation. If you make an ISO of the
>>     DVD and
>>     burn the ISO, no degradation.
>>
>>     You will only have degradation if you re-encode the video. If the
>>     video
>>     was MPEG-2 and was DVD-video compliant, you could author a
>>     DVD-video and
>>     have no video degradation. If you copy that DVD-video, you will
>>     have no
>>     degradation. But, if you have to recode the video before the DVD
>>     authoring
>>     process, you will have degradation. You will have NO further
>>     degradation
>>     if you copy that authored DVD-video.
>>
>>     The key point is that you have to have recoding before you can have
>>     further degradation.
>>
>>     All of the above applies to Blue-ray ROMs and/or Blu-ray authored
>>     videos.
>>
>>     MB
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On the subject of FLAC does anybody know of a program that can test the 
integrity of a FLAC file without having to play it?

Harry