Re: Compress

"Jeff [email protected] [EAC]" <[email protected]> Mon, 19 Oct 2020 06:52:56 -0700
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On 10/19/20 3:41 AM, Mark Fishman [email protected] [EAC] wrote:

> Somehow I generated some WAV files with RIFF tags that had such 
> information. (I don't think they had album art, but I hadn't looked 
> for any at that time.) Maybe WAV files aren't as anonymous as you 
> suggest?  -- Mark F.

It's not impossible to tag WAV files, there's just no single, 
globally-accepted standard for it like there is for FLAC and other formats.

I've also read complaints about tags in WAV files causing bursts of 
noise in some situations, though I've never experienced that myself and 
don't know if it's really an issue.

Is there a lot of hardware/software out there still in use that accepts 
WAV but not FLAC? My experience is limited at best, but what I've 
noticed is plenty of setups that won't take any lossless files at all, 
just MP3 and AAC. I haven't encountered anything that will play WAV but 
not FLAC.

For me, the ability to reliably have the metadata always follow the 
audio is too useful to pass up. And with a library my size, I certainly 
don't mind the smaller files.


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    <p>On 10/19/20 3:41 AM, Mark Fishman <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [EAC]
      wrote:</p>
    <pre>&gt; Somehow I generated some WAV files with RIFF tags that had such 
&gt; information. (I don't think they had album art, but I hadn't looked 
&gt; for any at that time.) Maybe WAV files aren't as anonymous as you 
&gt; suggest?  -- Mark F.
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    <p>It's not impossible to tag WAV files, there's just no single,
      globally-accepted standard
      for it like there is for FLAC and other formats.</p>
    <p>I've also read complaints about tags in WAV files causing bursts
      of noise in
      some situations, though I've never experienced that myself and
      don't know if it's
      really an issue.</p>
    <p>Is there a lot of hardware/software out there still in use that
      accepts WAV but
      not FLAC? My experience is limited at best, but what I've noticed
      is plenty of setups that won't take any lossless files at all,
      just MP3 and AAC. I haven't encountered
      anything that will play WAV but not FLAC.</p>
    <p>For me, the ability to reliably have the metadata always follow
      the audio is too useful to pass up. And with a library my size, I
      certainly don't mind
      the smaller files.</p>
  

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