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=E2=80=9CI haven't encountered anything that will play WAV but not FLAC.=E2=
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I might be misunderstanding that statement but I listen to wav files in my =
cars or my home stereo cd/dvd/bluray player and neither play flac. I suspe=
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EAC] Compress
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On 10/19/20 3:41 AM, Mark Fishman [email protected] <mailto:mark.p.f=
[email protected]> [EAC] wrote:
> Somehow I generated some WAV files with RIFF tags that had such=20
> information. (I don't think they had album art, but I hadn't looked=20
> for any at that time.) Maybe WAV files aren't as anonymous as you=20
> suggest? -- Mark F.
It's not impossible to tag WAV files, there's just no single, globally-acce=
pted standard for it like there is for FLAC and other formats.
I've also read complaints about tags in WAV files causing bursts of noise i=
n some situations, though I've never experienced that myself and don't know=
if it's really an issue.
Is there a lot of hardware/software out there still in use that accepts WAV=
but not FLAC? My experience is limited at best, but what I've noticed is p=
lenty of setups that won't take any lossless files at all, just MP3 and AAC=
.. I haven't encountered anything that will play WAV but not FLAC.
For me, the ability to reliably have the metadata always follow the audio i=
s too useful to pass up. And with a library my size, I certainly don't mind=
the smaller files.
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<p><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p>=E2=80=9CI haven't encountered anyt=
hing that will play WAV but not FLAC.=E2=80=9D<o></o></p><p>I might be misu=
nderstanding that statement but I listen to wav files in my cars or my home=
stereo cd/dvd/bluray =C2=A0player and neither play flac. I suspect its tru=
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Re: [EAC] Compress<o></o></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o>=
</o></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o></o></p><div id=3D"ygrp-mlms=
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m</a> [EAC] wrote:<o></o></p><pre>> Somehow I generated some WAV files w=
ith RIFF tags that had such <o></o></pre><pre>> information. (I don't th=
ink they had album art, but I hadn't looked <o></o></pre><pre>> for any =
at that time.) Maybe WAV files aren't as anonymous as you <o></o></pre><pre=
>> suggest?=C2=A0 -- Mark F.<o></o></pre><p>It's not impossible to tag W=
AV files, there's just no single, globally-accepted standard for it like th=
ere is for FLAC and other formats.<o></o></p><p>I've also read complaints a=
bout tags in WAV files causing bursts of noise in some situations, though I=
've never experienced that myself and don't know if it's really an issue.<o=
></o></p><p>Is there a lot of hardware/software out there still in use that=
accepts WAV but not FLAC? My experience is limited at best, but what I've =
noticed is plenty of setups that won't take any lossless files at all, just=
MP3 and AAC. I haven't encountered anything that will play WAV but not FLA=
C.<o></o></p><p>For me, the ability to reliably have the metadata always fo=
llow the audio is too useful to pass up. And with a library my size, I cert=
ainly don't mind the smaller files.<o></o></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
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