Re: Adding lv2 plugins

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
To: ecasound-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 2:27 pm
Subject: [ecasound] Adding lv2 plugins

Dear fellow Ecasound-users,

I'm finding my way in Ecasound (I've started off with Nama on top of it, bu=
t I like to use the commandline).=20
I've made a setup using Vim as my startingpoint to edit and switch between =
two .ecs files (record and playpack) with a shortcut ";7" to start ecasound=
 in interactive mode (ecasound -c -s %).
This simple setup seems to work pretty well so far.

There are three things where I would like to ask advice on:
1. What is the best route / strategy to manage punch in and outs (besides p=
racticing harder and making less errors... ;-) )?
=C2=A0=C2=A0 In general a track would look something like this:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Part 1 0-a seconds
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Part 2 a seconds- b seconds
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Part 3 b seconds - c seconds
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - etc...
All parts pass the same effect chain.=20

Would using ewf files the best way to go or can I manage this directly in a=
 ecs file?

All of the functionality of ewf files now able to be done internally with e=
casound now.

Issue the command -> man ecasound-iam

Also, make sure you look at -> man ecasound

I've been writing an ecasound front end for a long, long time and I can tel=
l you that I found a million ways to do this.

A lot of the code for all this has been buried as I redesign the DAW. So I =
will just tell you to go through both of the ecasound man pages and absorb =
the concepts. Then try anything that seems to relate to punch-ins/punch-out=
s. And there's a lot of features in ecasound that relate to modern day appr=
oaches to punching in and punchin out.

I've been researching all the DAW's out there and there's not one punch-in/=
punch-out scenario I haven't been able to do with ecasound (testing mostly.=
.. but it all works).

Ecasound provides a tremendous amount of features that are a playground if =
you have enough perseverance and imagination.

2. How can I add LV2 plugins without having to refer to the website?
=C2=A0 The manual says that I have to include the website from the plugin:h=
ttps://ecasound.seul.org/ecasound/Documentation/examples.html#LV2Is there a=
n alternative way to do this locally, because I get xruns when having the w=
ifi enabled?

I don't know. I'm still using ladspa plugins with ecasound

3. How can I add a synced metronome as a click track (other then recording =
a click track)?

'Jack Audio Connection Kit' has some test programs that I (think) come with=
 it when you install it. The metronome is called jack_metro. It's a static =
metronome (one tempo through the whole song... no tempo mapping), but it wo=
rks well.

Hope this helps,Rocco

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<div><br></div><div>Dear Rocco,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the=
 reply.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I agree that Ecasound is a very powerf=
ul tool with *lots* of possibilities.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regardin=
g the first question. I've read the manpages and the webpage with the examp=
les, but will dive into it again.<br></div><div>When I'll find a working so=
lution I'll post it, maybe it's a good idea to add it to the page of exampl=
es (with the disclaimer that there are other ways to do it).<br></div><div>=
As a beginner the examples are very useful, but they lack a "punch in / pun=
ch out"-example. <br></div><div>I'm not in a hurry to start recording and I=
 like to dig into the manpages and find out for myself, but it can be a bit=
 of a showstopper for those who are a starting out.<br></div><div><br></div=
><div>Regarding the second question: Are there others who are using LV2 plu=
gins locally?<br></div><div data-atmail-signature=3D"" class=3D"gmail_signa=
ture" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" style=3D""><br></div><div data-atm=
ail-signature=3D"" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signat=
ure" style=3D"">Finally: Thanks for the tip. I'll check out jack_metro. I h=
ave it installed.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div><br><=
/div><div>Hans<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote><p><div>Op Mon Nov 04 20=
19 00:44:45 GMT+0100 (Central European Standard Time) schreef Rocco via Eca=
sound-list &lt;[email protected]&gt;:<br></div><div>-----=
----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----------<br></div></p><div style=3D"color:bl=
ack;font: 10pt arial;"><div>-----Original Message-----<br></div><div> <br><=
/div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">=
<div>From: [email protected] &lt;[email protected]&gt;<=
br></div><div> To: ecasound-list &lt;[email protected]&gt=
;<br></div><div> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 2:27 pm<br></div><div> Subject: [ec=
asound] Adding lv2 plugins<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div id=
=3D"yiv6613648460"><div>Dear fellow Ecasound-users,<br></div><div><br></div=
><div>I'm finding my way in Ecasound (I've started off with Nama on top of =
it, but I like to use the commandline). <br></div><div>I've made a setup us=
ing Vim as my startingpoint to edit and switch between two .ecs files (reco=
rd and playpack) with a shortcut ";7" to start ecasound in interactive mode=
 (ecasound -c -s %).<br></div><div>This simple setup seems to work pretty w=
ell so far.<br></div><div><br></div><div>There are three things where I wou=
ld like to ask advice on:<br></div><div>1. What is the best route / strateg=
y to manage punch in and outs (besides practicing harder and making less er=
rors... ;-) )?<br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp; In general a track would look som=
ething like this:<br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Part 1 0-a secon=
ds<br></div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Part 2 a seconds- b seconds<br>=
</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Part 3 b seconds - c seconds<br></div=
><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - etc...<br></div><div>All parts pass the sa=
me effect chain. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Would using ewf files the be=
st way to go or can I manage this directly in a ecs file?<br></div><div><br=
></div><div><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:13px">All of the functi=
onality of ewf files now able to be done internally with ecasound now.<br> =
<br> Issue the command -&gt; man ecasound-iam<br> <br> Also, make sure you =
look at -&gt; man ecasound<br> <br> I've been writing an ecasound front end=
 for a long, long time and I can tell you that I found a million ways to do=
 this.<br> <br> A lot of the code for all this has been buried as I redesig=
n the DAW. So I will just tell you to go through both of the ecasound man p=
ages and absorb the concepts. Then try anything that seems to relate to pun=
ch-ins/punch-outs. And there's a lot of features in ecasound that relate to=
 modern day approaches to punching in and punchin out.<br> <br> I've been r=
esearching all the DAW's out there and there's not one punch-in/punch-out s=
cenario I haven't been able to do with ecasound (testing mostly... but it a=
ll works).<br> <br> Ecasound provides a tremendous amount of features that =
are a playground if you have enough perseverance and imagination.<br> </spa=
n></div><div>2. How can I add LV2 plugins without having to refer to the we=
bsite?<br></div><div>&nbsp; The manual says that I have to include the webs=
ite from the plugin:<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//ecasound.seul.org/ecasound/Documentation/examples.html#LV2</a>Is there an=
 alternative way to do this locally, because I get xruns when having the wi=
fi enabled?<br></div><div><br></div><div><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font=
-size:13px">I don't know. I'm still using ladspa plugins with ecasound</spa=
n><br></div><div><br></div><div>3. How can I add a synced metronome as a cl=
ick track (other then recording a click track)?<br></div><div><br></div><di=
v><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:13px">'Jack Audio Connection Kit'=
 has some test programs that I (think) come with it when you install it. Th=
e metronome is called jack_metro. It's a static metronome (one tempo throug=
h the whole song... no tempo mapping), but it works well.</span><br></div><=
div><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:13px"></span><br></div><div><sp=
an class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:13px">Hope this helps,</span><br></div=
><div><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:13px">Rocco</span><br></div><=
div><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:13px"></span><br></div></div></=
div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>
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