CoreAudio / DAE timing slop

"erockerboy" <erockerboy-/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.emagic.logic.tdm
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Ricky - I read your post below with much interest.  I have found it 
incredibly frustrating to do anything in Logic involving 
sidechaining, parallel compression, snare triggers from EXS, etc - 
basically any of the "normal" techniques I would reach for in 
the "analog mix world" to make my drums sound fatter.  The 
unpredictable "timing slop" between the virtual instruments, 
CoreAudio and DAE tracks makes these techniques essentially useless.

How do you work around this?  Do you bounce / print everything?  Are 
you no longer using DAE at all?

Thanks for any tips!!




--- In [email protected], "ricky" <forums@...> wrote:
>
> Message posted by ricky <ricky@...>:
> 
> i want to be clear... do this test
> 
> create an empty song with dtdm turned off and nothing playing from 
tdm audio tracks.
> 
> put an exs24 on core audio intrument 1 and do a pattern and loop it 
over the song...
> then bounce let's say 1 minute of that loop and put the bounced 
file in core audio track 1
> 
> now if you press play it should play in Sync, perfectly in sync.
> 
> do not cycle the song.. loop the audio and midi and listen over the 
song..
> 
> now in the audio you have just bounced do some random cuts over the 
file in arrange with the scissor.. do not move the audio.. just cut.
> 
> now create a tdm audio track and load anything you want on that... 
put the audio in arrange, lower the volume if you want as you don't 
need to hear it.
> 
> press play now.. you will hear that even exs24 and core audio track 
will flange.. and the flange changes everytime you have do the cut 
with the scissors.
> 
> so in sync with what? in sync with itself ;)
> 
> you can still use tdm plug-ins and processings on 
> 
> 1- any live input on your tdm
> 2- any aux
> 3- any digital or adat input you have from core audio, i have 24 in 
to put tdm plug.ins that is enough for me.
> 
> i prefer being sample accurate than using tdm tracks, and i prefer 
core audio tracks than dae tracks so i finally stop working with 
stereo splitted files.
> 
> hope it's clear now ;)
>




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