Re: Re: Times Signatures and how to use diff.ones in the track

Colin Shapiro <[email protected]> Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:39:41 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.emagic.logic.users
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Feb 19, 2011, at 23:30, [email protected] wrote:

> Thanks so much for all of your help regarding the Time Signature issue 
> but I still can't get them in the correct position. Obviously because 
> of the fact that they are in an odd time they won't be in the right 
> place rounding off to the nearest bar line however in the Marker 
> section of Globel, please excuse my basic language being a newbie to 
> Logic, they can be placed on the right position in the bar when 
> watching the playhead going through. I went to Options - Markers - 
> Create Without Rounding which seems to have worked, but when I try and 
> move the Time Signature to the same position as the Markers they won't 
> go there, so to speak.

There are 2 basic issues to consider here:
First, there's time signatures and then there are the markers.

Imagine you have a song with no time signature changes - all in 4/4. You can create markers  anywhere you like. They can be on a bar or literally anywhere between.

Try this:
Open a new song. In your arrange window, click on the Lists button, and then the Marker tab so that you can see a list of all markers.

Now create a few markers that start on bars. The list will show that they start on locations like 1 1 1 1 or 7 1 1 1 or 23 1 1 1 etc. I'm assuming you understand that the first number is the bar and the other numbers are subdivisions (depending on what is set for the song). Let's say you have a marker that starts on bar 7 1 1 1

Now, if you insert a 3/4 time signature at bar 6, then there will be only 3 beats in bar 6. The marker won't move absolute position, so it will now start on position 7 2 1 1, which is 4 beats later than the start of bar 6. 

As you see, changing time signature will alter the relative positions of markers.

By the way, I find that the easiest way to insert new time signatures is in the score window. In the Inspector of the score window, click on the little 4/4 button to bring the time signatures to the top of the display. Your basic possibilities are there - 2/4, 3/4, 4/4 and 6/8. Just drag them to anywhere in your score. They can only be dragged to the start of a bar.

If you want anything else, drag in the A/B symbol and a window opens where you can input 12/16 or 7/8 or whatever you wish.

If you have existing markers, they will obviously need to be re-organised as a result of time changes. Best to insert markers after you have mapped your time changes, if possible.

Hope this makes sense...

Regards - Colin



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