Re: Don't ever bother with bridging JACK with ALSA or Pulseaudio.

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Just read https://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=20419&p=110059
in order to appreciate the enormous complexity of my current audio system.
It is a giant overkill for a simple morning alarm.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 2:16 AM Chris Caudle <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, September 12, 2019 8:05 am, crocket wrote:
> > I've spent months on perfecting the bridge between JACK and ALSA.
>
> I think you have created the most complex monitor controller ever.  This
> is that system that has S/PDIF from the motherboard audio to digital input
> on a USB connected interface that you described earlier?
>
> -----------------------------
> --> is a connection that doesn't cross the boundary of a computer.
> ==> is a connection that occurs between two computers.
>
> Anything that doesn't cross ==> occurs on my desktop computer. Anything
> that happens after ==> occurs on Raspberry Pi 3 B+.
> netjack1 runs on my desktop computer. Ethernet cable is the only cable
> that connects two machines.
>
> 1. ALSA dmix --> SPDIF out of Realtek ALC887 onboard soundcard --> SPDIF
> In of X-Fi HD USB --(alsa_in or zita-a2j)--> netjack1 ==(ethernet
> cable)==> ALSA jack backend --> I2S Amplifier(HiFiBerry Amp2) --> Speakers
>
> 2. netjack1 --(alsa_out or zita-j2a)--> headphone jack of X-Fi HD USB on
> my desktop computer --> headphones
>
> -----------------------------
>
> Is this being used for music production, or just listening to audio files?
> PulseAudio can do something similar in a self-contained fashion, at the
> expense of higher latency and the occasional dropped sample.  And of
> course the old fashioned way to do it would be with an analog monitor
> controller or small mixer.  The more modern audio production focused way
> would be to use Dante or similar if you really want network connectivity,
> or the ability to add and remove devices, have large distance separation,
> etc.
>
> My recollection is that the questions you posed were somewhat isolated,
> and mostly how to accomplish various specific tasks with jackd or alsa.
> It may have been better to start with a more general description of what
> you were trying to accomplish and ask about the best way to get to that
> result, because I can't imagine anyone recommending that convoluted signal
> chain just for listening to audio from your desktop and a separate
> computer (RPi in your case) at the same time.  Using an on board audio
> interface just to send audio over S/PDIF to a USB interface to drive
> headphones seems pretty bizarre, I never could make sense of what you were
> trying to accomplish with that rather than just sending audio to the USB
> interface to start with.
>
>
> --
> Chris Caudle
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Just read=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.linuxmusicians.com/v=
iewtopic.php?f=3D27&amp;t=3D20419&amp;p=3D110059">https://www.linuxmusician=
s.com/viewtopic.php?f=3D27&amp;t=3D20419&amp;p=3D110059</a> in order to app=
reciate the enormous complexity of my current audio system. It is a giant o=
verkill for a simple morning alarm.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 2:16 AM Chris Ca=
udle &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On T=
hu, September 12, 2019 8:05 am, crocket wrote:<br>
&gt; I&#39;ve spent months on perfecting the bridge between JACK and ALSA.<=
br>
<br>
I think you have created the most complex monitor controller ever.=C2=A0 Th=
is<br>
is that system that has S/PDIF from the motherboard audio to digital input<=
br>
on a USB connected interface that you described earlier?<br>
<br>
-----------------------------<br>
--&gt; is a connection that doesn&#39;t cross the boundary of a computer.<b=
r>
=3D=3D&gt; is a connection that occurs between two computers.<br>
<br>
Anything that doesn&#39;t cross =3D=3D&gt; occurs on my desktop computer. A=
nything<br>
that happens after =3D=3D&gt; occurs on Raspberry Pi 3 B+.<br>
netjack1 runs on my desktop computer. Ethernet cable is the only cable<br>
that connects two machines.<br>
<br>
1. ALSA dmix --&gt; SPDIF out of Realtek ALC887 onboard soundcard --&gt; SP=
DIF<br>
In of X-Fi HD USB --(alsa_in or zita-a2j)--&gt; netjack1 =3D=3D(ethernet<br=
>
cable)=3D=3D&gt; ALSA jack backend --&gt; I2S Amplifier(HiFiBerry Amp2) --&=
gt; Speakers<br>
<br>
2. netjack1 --(alsa_out or zita-j2a)--&gt; headphone jack of X-Fi HD USB on=
<br>
my desktop computer --&gt; headphones<br>
<br>
-----------------------------<br>
<br>
Is this being used for music production, or just listening to audio files?<=
br>
PulseAudio can do something similar in a self-contained fashion, at the<br>
expense of higher latency and the occasional dropped sample.=C2=A0 And of<b=
r>
course the old fashioned way to do it would be with an analog monitor<br>
controller or small mixer.=C2=A0 The more modern audio production focused w=
ay<br>
would be to use Dante or similar if you really want network connectivity,<b=
r>
or the ability to add and remove devices, have large distance separation,<b=
r>
etc.<br>
<br>
My recollection is that the questions you posed were somewhat isolated,<br>
and mostly how to accomplish various specific tasks with jackd or alsa. <br=
>
It may have been better to start with a more general description of what<br=
>
you were trying to accomplish and ask about the best way to get to that<br>
result, because I can&#39;t imagine anyone recommending that convoluted sig=
nal<br>
chain just for listening to audio from your desktop and a separate<br>
computer (RPi in your case) at the same time.=C2=A0 Using an on board audio=
<br>
interface just to send audio over S/PDIF to a USB interface to drive<br>
headphones seems pretty bizarre, I never could make sense of what you were<=
br>
trying to accomplish with that rather than just sending audio to the USB<br=
>
interface to start with.<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Chris Caudle<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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