Re: ardour export + jamin

Jan Depner <[email protected]> Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:01:38 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.jamin.devel
Message-ID <1263420098.13527.8.camel@eviltwin>
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 21:51 +0100, Kees van Veen wrote:
> Jack,
> 
> Can't get it to abort when the Jack period is 256. Tried it several 
> times without aborting. My .jackdrc then was: /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa 
> -dhw:0 -r44100 -p256 -n2
> 
> As soon as I changed my jack settings to 64 frames: /usr/bin/jackd -R 
> -dalsa -dhw:0 -r44100 -p64 -n4, Jamin aborted at the end of the first 
> export I tried.
> 
> I've attached the gdb.log with the content you asked. Kernel: Linux 
> 2.6.31-9-rt #152-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Oct 15 05:01:14 UTC 2009 i686 
> GNU/Linux. All packages from the Ubuntu Karmic standard repos.
> 
> Changing the jack settings to 128 frames: /usr/bin/jackd -R -dalsa 
> -dhw:0 -r44100 -p128 -n2, did not show the abort either, tried it 
> several times in a row.
> 
> As soon as I changed it back to 64 as above, trouble started again.
> 
> I'm very curious about the magical 256/128 ...
> 

    There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about when you need low
latency.  If you're not running live or trying to record new tracks
while using software monitoring you don't really need low latency.
JAMin wasn't designed for live work and it wasn't designed to be a
plugin for a single track.  It was designed for stereo audio mastering.
The amount of processing involved is significant so it probably won't be
able to keep up with small period sizes.  Just kick it up to 2048 and
relax ;-)


> If you need more info, or want me to try other things, let me know.
> 
> Regards,
> Kees
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Jamin] ardour export + jamin
> From: Jack O'Quin <[email protected]>
> To: Kees van Veen <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed Jan 13 2010 17:53:55 GMT+0100 (CET)
> > On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jack O'Quin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >   
> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:40 AM, Kees van Veen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>     
> >
> >   
> >> If you can reproduce this error, please configure your system to take
> >> a core dump (ulimit -c unlimited), trigger the failure, then print the
> >> gdb stack traceback for all the jamin threads:
> >>
> >> gdb> thread all apply bt
> >>
> >> Then, please send the output to this list, along with your JACK
> >> parameters (period, etc) and any other interesting facts you can think
> >> of.
> >>     
> >
> > Kees,
> >
> > I just read the long thread about this from the Ardour site.  The
> > process thread aborts exactly where I expected from your description.
> > But, I'd still like to know where the other threads were at that time.
> >
> > Is your JACK period less than 256 frames?  What happens if you use a
> > larger frame size (at least 256)?  Does the problem go away then?
> >
> > Depending on what we discover, I may ask you to try some different patches.
> >
> > Regards,
> >   
> 
> 
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