Re: multiband xover

Steve Harris <[email protected]> Fri, 8 Feb 2013 23:52:06 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.jamin.devel
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On 8 Feb 2013, at 21:38, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

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> On Sat, February 9, 2013 8:00 am, Steve Harris wrote:
>> On 8 Feb 2013, at 18:09, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
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>>> On Sat, February 9, 2013 3:31 am, Steve Harris wrote:
>>>> Sorry, I've not been following the conversation.
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>>>> Is this a new x-over algorithm? If so, it should replace the old one -
>>>> the
>>>> X-over was one of the weakest parts.
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>>> We can definitely upgrade the algorithm. Do you recall what the issue
>>> is?
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>>> Or maybe it would be better to explain what the existing algorithm
>>> does=85?
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>> The existing algorithm uses the FFT data, which makes a poor x-over - I
>> can't remember exactly why, I think there might be ringing in the freq
>> domain or something?
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> Do you think that might have been fixed with the switch to the
> Kaiser-Bessel window?

It could yes, but I'm too rusty on exactly what that would do.

- Steve

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>> You could tell by muting two of the three bands and putting whitenoise
>> through it, and looking at the spectrum.
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>> It pieces back together perfectly, but each band of the x-over in
>> isolation is a bit ugly. I don't know how much of an issue it is, to be
>> honest, but I seem to remember it was one of the weakest parts sonically.
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>> My knowledge of filters isn't (and wasn't) good enough to design a good
>> x-over that works at arbitrary sampling frequencies. I had a go with a
>> multipole IIR, but it wasn't as clean sounding as the FFT.
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>> - Steve
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>>>> On 2013-02-07, at 23:05, Patrick Shirkey <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> So, the question now is how do we manage the 2nd xover?
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>>>>> The obvious solution is to add multiple sliders and effectively
>>>>> replicate
>>>>> the first xover but with more sliders. However that might look a bit
>>>>> messy. Does anyone have a better idea for a control widget?
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>>>>> If we replicate the first xover then we can keep all the sliders
>>>>> viewable
>>>>> but disabled until required or do we show/hide them?
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>>>>> How does the user choose the number of bands easily. It seem more
>>>>> useful
>>>>> to have that functionality directly in the main window rather than
>>>>> having
>>>>> to open the preferences panel just to enable/disable a band.
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>>>>> We could have check boxes next to the sliders to enable/disable the
>>>>> bands.
>>>>> If enabled the output controls will be added to a scrollable panel?
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>>>>> Or maybe there is a better way?
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