CBR/ABR quality regressions for q0, q1, q2 and q3
Maik Merten via Lame-dev <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:57:22 +0200
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Hello there, it has been observed that with CBR and ABR, perceived audio quality increases when using faster settings than default. A discussion regarding this over at HydrogenAudio: https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,126120.0.html This is very easily noticeable with very low bitrates, but is also detectable with the default bitrate of 128 kbps. The discussion thread on HydrogenAudio includes samples. I traced this down to cfg->noise_shaping_amp, which is set to 1 for -q3/-q2 and is set to 2 for -q1/-q0. Choosing a value of 0 (as for the faster quality settings) improves perceived audio quality. I opened up a bug report a while back over at https://sourceforge.net/p/lame/bugs/516/ with trivial patches and an attempt at a theory of why quality might be affected negatively with noise_shaping_amp being set to 1 or 2. This, however, is merely speculative, as it's not quite clear to me what settings 1 and 2 are actually trying to achieve - presumably, those are intended to increase quality (and perhaps they do in VBR?), but I don't quite understand the reasoning behind those approaches. While setting noise_shaping_amp to 0 is a trivial thing to do, it might also be (pure speculation, again) that the actual root cause is with the CBR and ABR encoding loops somehow not interacting properly with noise_shaping_amp 1/2 and that a "true fix" might involve tinkering with those encoding loops. How would one progress on this issue? With -q3 being the default setting, rather regrettably CBR and ABR encodings are impacted negatively by default. Another, but most likely minor thing: It appears that noise_shaping_stop is unused, yet set up by lame_init_qval. I assume this could be removed? Best regards, Maik