Re: [mpc-general] Adding a lossless mode to MPC SV8
Joël Bourquard <[email protected]> Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:28:44 -0100
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I like the mixing lossless/lossy channels idea a lot. This way concerts could be encoded with full quality for the front channels, without bloating the filesizes :-) Also it would be good if for a given channel, lossy <-> lossless switching could be done on a reasonable boundary (~1 second? ~1 frame?). Even more space can then be spared on unimportant parts of a track. Third, I'd propose to separate entropy coding from the rest (just as the psymodel would be modularized too). This way I could implement a nice arithmetic coding layer for those who want to save maximum space ;-) Regards Jo=C3=ABl On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 19:22, Christian HJ Wiesner wrote: > Hi, >=20 > as announced before, i would like to start a discussion here about the=20 > above written subject. >=20 > The reason i'm asking is, if we make the jump from SV7 to SV8, we shoul= d >=20 > - guarantee backwards compatibiliy, means that old SV7 files should be=20 > convertable to SV8 ( with special tools ) in a lossless process, but=20 > still be fully spec compatible SV8 files >=20 > - make sure the SV8 specs offer a lot more functionailities than SV7, s= o=20 > that MPC SV8 can be used for hi-quality movie encodings as well as for=20 > DVDs, where space is maybe not a big issue anymore >=20 > - consider to check if its possible to allow peeling for MPC SV8, so=20 > that users can store their MPC files with rather high bitrates on DVD o= r=20 > CD media, but can peel the files down in bitrate so they could be=20 > transferred onto portable players ( of course, this is NOT a lossless=20 > process anymore ) >=20 > - add a loss less mode to SV8, and the speciality here is that mixing=20 > lossy and lossless modes in one and the same file should be possible,=20 > just like in the upcoming Wavpack4 from David Bryant ( who i am copying= =20 > on this email, i dont wnat to 'steal' his idea without at least telling= =20 > him :-) ) >=20 >=20 > To make one thing clear out front, i dont know if Frank has thought=20 > about all these things in his current specs, because i am sorry i am no= t=20 > capable reading technical specs at all, but from a user perspective i a= m=20 > convinced these features could lift MPC on a new level, and make a big=20 > differentation from other formats. >=20 > What you think ? >=20 > Christian > MPC and matroska project admin >=20 >=20 > http://mpc.corecodec.org >=20 http://mpc.corecodec.org