Re: [mb-users] Keep ID after takeover?

Per Starbäck <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.musicbrainz.user
Message-ID <CADkQgvvK89V8gTdCBtt1wfH=6XHfxX1SD2ZGJiH1Gnb-Eb83QQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012/8/13 Brian Schweitzer <[email protected]>:
> Per didn't identify me, but I am the autoeditor he's referring to.  In all
> honesty, this thread seems a bit out of proportion to what is actually a
> pretty common thing to happen.  The "takeover" language in particular is
> overly strong, imho.

If this is common the more reason to bring this up, because it shouldn't be.

> The "takeover" language in particular is overly strong, imho.

Maybe there are nuances of language here that I don't get, but my
intention then was not to
criticize but to ask what I should do now to fix it. Obviously MBIDs
are meant to be
permanent, but was it OK to be a bit lax about it.when it would be
easier to fix it the other way?
As you observed I didn't identify you or any particulars, but just
sticked to that question, even
though I got rather irritated when I saw the edits where you without
any explanation at all just removed
the information I had added. An edit note saying what had happened
would have made it a lot
better, especially one that mentioned the "new" artist you created
which I hadn't seen when I
asked about how to fix it here.

> The latter (Eric Ekholm) is the one Per added a year or so back; he had 4
> performer ARs, a wikipedia URL AR, a birthdate, a death date, and an "Erik
> Ekholm" alias.  Nothing else.
>
> The former (Erik Ekholm) is an artist whom I had added in the past.  I'm not
> sure if he was merged into Eric Ekholm (thus creating the alias), but prior
> to my split edits described below, both Eric and Erik were resolving to the
> same artist.

This sounds strange to me. The edit history for the artist I created
shows no merges.
A datadump I have from July has an artist_name where there is no Erik
Ekholm at all, just the Eric Ekholm
that I created.

kuno/warp wrote:
> MBIDs are what connects musicbrainz to the music collections and
> databases of our users and clients, and it is very important that an
> MBID doesn't suddenly refer to a different entity.

Absolutely. I want to repeat what Brian Schweitzer pointed out though,
that in this case it's really
no big damage, since it was such a minor artist anyway. I think the
main drawback afterwards is
that the few edits about the guitar player now are made by brianfreud
without edit notes instead of
by me with edit notes (just saying "cd", but that is useful if someone
has reason to dispute
any of the info years ahead).
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