Re: [mb-users] ARs for references in works?

2013/10/2 Mihkel Tõnnov <[email protected]>

> 2013/10/1 Per Starbäck <[email protected]>
>
>> Has ARs for references in lyrics been considered? I mean things like a
>> work-to-work AR from The Wombats' "Let's Dance to Joy Division" to Joy
>> Division's "Love Will Tear Us Apart". (Lyrics "So let the love tear us
>> apart, / I've found the cure for a broken heart, / Let it tear us
>> apart, / Let the love tear us apart".)
>>
>> Or from Camera Obscura's "Lloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken" to Lloyd
>> Cole's "Are you ready to be heartbroken?".
>>
>> Or work-to-artist from Leonard Cohens's "Tower of Song" to artist Hank
>> Williams (because of lyrics "I said to Hank Williams: how lonely does
>> it get? / Hank Williams hasn't answered yet"?
>>
>> There would probably be problems with unclear references that people
>> wouldn't agree on, but I think it would be fun and interesting to have
>> such information. What do you think?
>>
>
> Yes, absolutely.
>
> I'd like to see work-to-URL as well, where URL could be an IMDB or
> Wikipedia link or such, for cases like this:
> https://www.facebook.com/visionsofatlantisofficial/posts/548414425200919?comment_id=5820628(I'm sure there are more, esp. for books).
>
> 2013/10/1 Frederic Da Vitoria <[email protected]>
>
>> Definitely. But to be useful, we should be able to add comments in order
>> to explain the AR. Unfortunately, the AR structure currently does not
>> support comments AFAIK.
>>
>> Maybe it is time to request for a comment field on ARs. Of course, this
>> field should not be always present, I guess most of the ARs wouldn't have
>> one. On second thought, the AR comment could simply be initialized with a
>> copy of the edit comment. I often miss the edit comment.
>>
>
> Wouldn't some pre-defined attributes like "references", "is inspired by",
> etc. suffice?
>

The problem I see is that as Per explained, some of those relations will be
less than obvious to understand. So that a well-intentioned user later
browsing the database could be tempted to remove the ARs for which he can't
find a justification. I think that allowing to enter in the AR the
explanation will help avoiding undesirable deletions. In general, all data
should be justified, like wikipedia is doing in keeping track of the
sources of it's data, this is why I am suggesting that allowing comments in
ARs could be valuable for all ARs.

-- 
Frederic Da Vitoria
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