Re: [mb-users] arrangement recordings

Frederic Da Vitoria <[email protected]> Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:39:09 +0100
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2014-02-05 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren <[email protected]>:

> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> 2014-02-05 Frederic Da Vitoria <[email protected]>:
>>
>> 2014-02-05 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Once upon a time ( not so long ago
>>>>> http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?id=3588 ), we were
>>>>> supposed to create arrangement works only if there was more than one
>>>>> recording of this arrangement. I can't see how this is currently achieved
>>>>> in the Recording - Work editor.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Er. How _what_ is currently achieved? Creating a new work?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No :-) Saying that a recording is of an arrangement of a work. Example :
>>> http://musicbrainz.org/recording/30b57a2a-49ae-4cb8-a603-8be7e5eaa312or
>>> http://musicbrainz.org/recording/21c0af5c-9f19-49ae-bbbf-bf57db186853
>>>
>>
>> I was expecting an "arrangement" attribute
>>
>
> Oh. Yeah, unsure. I mean, I imagine it would make sense for us to create a
> catch-all work for these cases? I don't really like the idea of an
> arrangement attribute, but mostly because it feels like storing the info at
> the wrong level. I'm not particularly in favour of the idea of needing more
> than one recording to add a (published) arrangement anyway, but in any case
> I feel this belongs at the work level. Of course, I fully admit to being
> lazy and not always adding such catch-all works, especially for now since
> we don't even have instrumentation on works...
>

I agree creating a work is the best way in terms of data structure. But
IIRC this was decided to avoid creating works just for one arranged
recording. IIRC, this was more to avoid cluttering the Works table than to
make input easier. Anyhow, this is not really what I am asking. According
to the forum link above, I thought this was implemented and I was just
surprised at not finding it. But maybe the discussion was only about the
documentation and maybe the arrangement attribute has never been
implemented.

So, I currently have found 3 (at least) orchestral performances of this
piano work. My best idea would be to create a catchall arrangement for this
waltz, with a mention (disambiguation comment?) stating that it is a
catchall and that nobody should add an arranger AR to it (because these
could be different arrangements). Do you agree?

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Frederic Da Vitoria
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