Re: [mb-users] Alternative release titles

Tom Crocker <[email protected]> Wed, 27 Aug 2014 22:52:04 +0100
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On 27 Aug 2014 17:35, "Calvin Walton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 11:29 -0700, lixobix wrote:
> > Per Starb=C3=A4ck wrote
> > >  2014-08-24 21:35 GMT+02:00 lixobix &lt;>
> > > > >
> > > >  So should "Old Tunes vol. 1" be part of the title, put in the
> > > >  disambiguation
> > > >  field, or in the annotation?> >
> > >  I think alternative titles would be good to have. Even official
> > >  releases can have inofficial titles like that, the obvious example
> > >  being "The White Album" by Beatles. But where I have mostly felt a
> > >  need for alternative titles is when there are (slightly) different
> > >  titles on the release, for example on front cover, on spine, and
> > > on
> > >  disc.> > >
> > The question then is where that alt. title should go. Should it be in
> > brackets after the main title, or should it be in the disambiguation
> > comment?
> I wonder if it might make sense to look into adding an aliases system
> at the release group level to store these types of alternate titles,
> fan titles, etc; similar to how we use them for search hints on artist
> names.

Definitely. And not only for releases. Does anyone know if there's a ticket
for this? It's not the first time it's come up.

>
> This would be a longer-term (schema change) goal, though; and it
> doesn't resolve the immediate issue.

I'm not sure how this should be handled for now. It should probably go in
the annotation but that won't help for searches I guess? For tracks I've
seen Foo (aka Bar) on releases. But I don't think it would be good to add
that to the title in these cases nor to the disambiguation because that's
not what the disambiguation is for...

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On 27 Aug 2014 17:35, &quot;Calvin Walton&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:calvi=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, 2014-08-26 at 11:29 -0700, lixobix wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Per Starb=C3=A4ck wrote<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 2014-08-24 21:35 GMT+02:00 lixobix &amp;lt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 So should &quot;Old Tunes vol. 1&quot; be part of=
 the title, put in the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 disambiguation<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 field, or in the annotation?&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 I think alternative titles would be good to have. Even=
 official<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 releases can have inofficial titles like that, the obv=
ious example<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 being &quot;The White Album&quot; by Beatles. But wher=
e I have mostly felt a<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 need for alternative titles is when there are (slightl=
y) different<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 titles on the release, for example on front cover, on =
spine, and<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; on<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;=C2=A0 disc.&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; The question then is where that alt. title should go. Should it b=
e in<br>
&gt; &gt; brackets after the main title, or should it be in the disambiguat=
ion<br>
&gt; &gt; comment?<br>
&gt; I wonder if it might make sense to look into adding an aliases system<=
br>
&gt; at the release group level to store these types of alternate titles,<b=
r>
&gt; fan titles, etc; similar to how we use them for search hints on artist=
<br>
&gt; names.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Definitely. And not only for releases. Does anyone know if t=
here&#39;s a ticket for this? It&#39;s not the first time it&#39;s come up.=
 </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br>
&gt; This would be a longer-term (schema change) goal, though; and it<br>
&gt; doesn&#39;t resolve the immediate issue.</p><p>I&#39;m not sure how th=
is should be handled for now. It should probably go in the annotation but t=
hat won&#39;t help for searches I guess? For tracks I&#39;ve seen Foo (aka =
Bar) on releases. But I don&#39;t think it would be good to add that to the=
 title in these cases nor to the disambiguation because that&#39;s not what=
 the disambiguation is for...<br>
</p>
</div>

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