Re: [mb-users] how to handle "enhanced CD"??

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Every time i have tried to import a disc id with one of these it has shown
up as an additional track with no way to delete it.  It doesn't allow the
track to be deleted either.  It requires a name.  I've had to just give up
and not save my changes.

As far as where to find the documentation,  i really don't know.  It would
be nice to search for "enhanced cd" or similar terms that they are called
in the industry.
On Oct 4, 2014 4:58 PM, "Johannes Dewender" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Am 04.10.2014 um 19:42 schrieb Brian Whitehead:
> > Could someone please explain how "enhanced CDs" with a partition
> > containing videos are supposed to be handled.  I cannot find anything in
> > the documentation about this.  I have a lot of CDs like this and they
> > are never found.  A good example is the album Awake by Godsmack.  In
> > fact this album didn't show up in either a artist or album search.  When
> > I started to add it as a new release, it finally found 3 releases.  I
> > tried using one but when I attach the DiscID, it shows a 12th track
> > which is the video partition.
> >
> > I'm getting very frustrated with this and can't find anything in the
> > documentation to help.
>
>
> The trailing data track gets discarded in the Disc ID calculation.
> See this for technical details (users don't need to know these):
> https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Disc_ID_Calculation
>
> The official style guide you are searching is this:
>
> https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Unknown_and_untitled/Special_purpose_track_title#Data_tracks
> I notice there is no indication about that on
> https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Release
> There is a question about that in the FAQ:
>
> https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Editing_FAQ#Does_MusicBrainz_store_information_about_data_tracks.3F_How_should_they_be_entered.2C_if_at_all.3F
>
> An enhanced CD with 11 audio tracks and having a data track with a video
> on track 12 shows up as a 11-track release on MusicBrainz.
>
> So when you are using libdiscid (directly or indirectly, Picard uses
> libdiscid) it does the right thing. If you use something else, there
> might be a bug regarding data tracks.
>
> Please tell us if there is a place in the Documentation where you
> expected this information and it wasn't mentioned or linked.
>
> --
> JonnyJD
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Every time i have tried to import a disc id with one of thes=
e it has shown up as an additional track with no way to delete it.=C2=A0 It=
 doesn&#39;t allow the track to be deleted either.=C2=A0 It requires a name=
.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve had to just give up and not save my changes.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">As far as where to find the documentation,=C2=A0 i really do=
n&#39;t know.=C2=A0 It would be nice to search for &quot;enhanced cd&quot; =
or similar terms that they are called in the industry.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Oct 4, 2014 4:58 PM, &quot;Johannes Dewender&=
quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Am 04.10.2014=
 um 19:42 schrieb Brian Whitehead:<br>
&gt; Could someone please explain how &quot;enhanced CDs&quot; with a parti=
tion<br>
&gt; containing videos are supposed to be handled.=C2=A0 I cannot find anyt=
hing in<br>
&gt; the documentation about this.=C2=A0 I have a lot of CDs like this and =
they<br>
&gt; are never found.=C2=A0 A good example is the album Awake by Godsmack.=
=C2=A0 In<br>
&gt; fact this album didn&#39;t show up in either a artist or album search.=
=C2=A0 When<br>
&gt; I started to add it as a new release, it finally found 3 releases.=C2=
=A0 I<br>
&gt; tried using one but when I attach the DiscID, it shows a 12th track<br=
>
&gt; which is the video partition.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;m getting very frustrated with this and can&#39;t find anything =
in the<br>
&gt; documentation to help.<br>
<br>
<br>
The trailing data track gets discarded in the Disc ID calculation.<br>
See this for technical details (users don&#39;t need to know these):<br>
<a href=3D"https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Disc_ID_Calculation" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Disc_ID_Calculation</a><br>
<br>
The official style guide you are searching is this:<br>
<a href=3D"https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Unknown_and_untitled/Special_p=
urpose_track_title#Data_tracks" target=3D"_blank">https://musicbrainz.org/d=
oc/Style/Unknown_and_untitled/Special_purpose_track_title#Data_tracks</a><b=
r>
I notice there is no indication about that on<br>
<a href=3D"https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Release" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Release</a><br>
There is a question about that in the FAQ:<br>
<a href=3D"https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Editing_FAQ#Does_MusicBrainz_store_i=
nformation_about_data_tracks.3F_How_should_they_be_entered.2C_if_at_all.3F"=
 target=3D"_blank">https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Editing_FAQ#Does_MusicBrainz=
_store_information_about_data_tracks.3F_How_should_they_be_entered.2C_if_at=
_all.3F</a><br>
<br>
An enhanced CD with 11 audio tracks and having a data track with a video<br=
>
on track 12 shows up as a 11-track release on MusicBrainz.<br>
<br>
So when you are using libdiscid (directly or indirectly, Picard uses<br>
libdiscid) it does the right thing. If you use something else, there<br>
might be a bug regarding data tracks.<br>
<br>
Please tell us if there is a place in the Documentation where you<br>
expected this information and it wasn&#39;t mentioned or linked.<br>
<br>
--<br>
JonnyJD<br>
<br>
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 target=3D"_blank">http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrain=
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