Re: Do we want LV2 and jack-midi?

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On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 15:45:58 +0200
Lorenzo Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> As a new release approaches, I think one of the latest threads about 
> synths, jack (midi) etc. re-prompts the longstanding questions:
> 
> 1. do we want LV2 in Rosegarden?
> 2. do we want Jack-MIDI?
> 
> IMHO (and with an updated perspective compared to my opinions in the past):
> 
> 1. I think on the one hand this would be great because LV2 is the 
> current de-facto standard on Linux and would open up many possibilities 
> if integrated natively.
> The key question, though, is: would it make sense to support LV2 if then 
> user's aren't able to 'generate' (i.e. save as, say, a WAV file), the 
> final result of their musical masterpiece made in Rosegarden?
> I'm thinking of software like Ardour, Qtractor and LMMS (the latter 
> notably also not supporting LV2 yet), which are potentially 
> self-contained in that you add/use plugins, and when done export to a 
> final audio file.
> If Rosegarden were to support LV2 it should also support audio export of 
> the final result, otherwise it would mostly generate user frustration.
> Self-contained in audio is a double-edged sword which easy becomes 
> obsolete when relying on plugins which will eventually be un-maintained 
> or become incompatible (this applies also outside the Linux ecosystem - 
> think RTAS or DirectX).
> 
> 2. jack-midi feels like a higher priority. Why? Because it would allow 
> to e.g. connect to jack-midi applications like Carla (multi-format 
> plugin host) or Ardour (to name a couple) and better support modularity 
> within the current Linux ecosystem where it seems that ALSA Midi is 
> considered to be deprecated. True there is a2j but that's really a bit 
> of a work-around.
> 
> My two (user-oriented) cents and would be interesting to hear other 
> opinions.
> 
> 
> Lorenzo.

As a somewhat south of average user (at 78 I have given up on learning too many new tricks) I hear that Pipewire is
poised to deplace pulse AND jack, for whatever that might mean to devs/users (means nothing to me unless it, unlike a fly on the monitor, makes a sound when I stab it with mouse arrow and click on it).
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