Re: Any plans to support LV2 plug-ins?

On 2/19/23 23:09, Will Godfrey wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 20:19:15 -1000
> david <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Well, I've made a couple of attempts to use Ardour. It's a very powerful
>> tool of audio engineers.
>>
>> For someone more ordinary, like me, who doesn't do much with recorded
>> audio, it's way beyond me.
>>
>> Rosegarden does the MIDI and scoring I need. For a final, complete,
>> beautiful score, I use MuseScore.
>>
>> On 2/19/23 20:06, Mike Broughton wrote:
>>> Not to steal a thread, but rather than rosegarden supporting all these
>>> formats, have you considered rosegarden becoming a plugin so that you
>>> can use it in say, ardour.
>>>
>>> Keep rosegarden a special notation piece, and let others worry about
>>> the extra fluff.
>>>
>>> Sorry if this has been considered before.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On 18 Feb 2023 11:06, Lorenzo Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>      On 18/02/2023 04:57, david wrote:
>>>      > I was wondering about that. With RG already supporting ALSA
>>>      MIDI, what's
>>>      > the showstopper with similarly supporting JACK MIDI?
>>>
>>>      Actually, I feel that the uncertainty Pipewire it bringing to the
>>>      Linux
>>>      Pro Audio world (see discussions on LAD for example), and the risk
>>>      JACK
>>>      is in the longer term, I feel link bumping up LV2 support in
>>>      Rosegarden.
>>>
>>>      Then JACK MIDI as Carla for example only supports JACK MIDI.
>>>
>>>      Unfortunately it seems that the modular approach of 'an app does
>>>      something well' philosophy is at risk if JACK is at risk...
>>>
>>>      Just a quick guts feeling here, and I totally understand the kind of
>>>      endeavor LV2 would be...
>>>      In an ideal world I'd be happy for Rosegarden to do 'just' MIDI
>>>      (maybe
>>>      JACK Midi), and then have external software do the plugins. I've
>>>      written
>>>      a lot about e.g. rendering with jack freewheel etc. but I think the
>>>      trend now is to go on Linux to the one-DAW-does-it-all probably
>>>      because
>>>      of commercial software like Bitwig or Reaper now available for
>>>      Linux and
>>>      having that approach and Ardour trying to follow on that (albeit IMHO
>>>      still lacking to much in the MIDI department).
>>>
>>>      Enough rambling there, just my 2 cents :-)
>>>      Lorenzo
>>>   
>>>      >
>>>      > Let us continue to ignore those that might pipe up, "Why support
>>>      either
>>>      > of those when you could just support Pipewire instead?" ;)
>>>      >
>>>      > On 2/17/23 17:38, Ted Felix wrote:
>>>      >>   No plans.  I would love to do it, though. Along with JACK MIDI.
>>>      >> Need to find some more time.
>>>      >>
>>>      >> Ted.
>>>      >>
>>>      >> On 2/17/23 10:05 PM, david wrote:
>>>      >>> Inspired by a question from Paul Davus on the
>>>      Linux-Users-Audio list,
>>>      >>> when he replied to my request that Yoshimi add DSSI support:
>>>      "Why do
>>>      >>> you want DSSI instead of LV2?"
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> I replied that Rosegarden doesn't support LV2.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> I see this feature request:
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/462/
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> The last item on that list quotes someone else saying:
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>>> Rosegarden does not need native LV2. Carla should have all the
>>>      >>>> plugin support needed for a project. We don't need several
>>>      programs
>>>      >>>> all doing the same thing.
>>>      >>> Only issue with that for me is, I went to my Debian 11
>>>      repository -
>>>      >>> and Carla isn't there. It's not available in Debian.
>>>      Apparently only
>>>      >>> through KXStudio repository?
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> I would still prefer RG having LV2 support built-in, instead of
>>>      >>> having to install yet another program.
>>>      >>>
>>>      >>> Ideas?
>>>      >
>>>   
> I would add that Yoshimi in Ardour *at least* doubles the CPU load compared
> with Yoshimi with Rosegarden.
> Ardour is an audio processor with some MIDI facilities added on.
> Rosegarden is a MIDI processor with some audio facilities added on.
>
And I mostly do MIDI and scores. Although I suspect my system (i9 
processor, 64GB RAM, Nvidia graphics) probably wouldn't complain about 
CPU load in Ardour.

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