Rosegarden fork [WAS]: Re: How do I set a scale in Rosegarden?

Lorenzo Sutton <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.audio.rosegarden.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 25/03/2023 18:45, mark_at_yahoo via Rosegarden-user wrote:
> All of this, and much more -- key/scale-specific highlight/stripes, 
> labeling and coloring notes by scale degree, display of notes' chord 
> functions (root, 3rd, 5th, etc) -- is available in my fork of Rosegarden 
> at 
> https://sourceforge.net/u/thanks4opensrc/rosegarden/ci/thanks4opensrc_devel/tree/ and https://github.com/thanks4opensource/rosegarden-fork.
> 

I wasn't aware of a rosegarden fork. Unfortunately I wasn't able to 
build it on Manjaro (I tried the same procedure as for Rosegarden latest 
git).

As mainly a *user* I tend to disagree with the 'speculation' in the 
README file [0] where it says:

'changes to Rosegarden's user interface and/or workflow (beyond the most 
trivial) are unlikely to be approved based on a belief that a large user 
base exists, the majority of whom would not accept such changes 
regardless of whether they represent improvements or not.'

I think there's always interesting discussions on new features (e.g. see 
the ones about 'new' looping mode), and the concept of 'improvement' is 
often subjective ;-)

Some listed features in the fork do seem interesting, in particular I 
spotted:

- Visual distinction between vertical lines indicating measures, beats, 
and inter-beat grid timing.

This one would be useful when entering in 16ths (or even 8ths) e.g. 
drums or even synth arpeggios.

- The vertical piano keyboard at the left of the Matrix Editor window 
more accurately aligns with the note grid.

As I'm not able to build the fork I wonder if any screenshots / 
screen-grabs exist.

Lorenzo

[0] 
https://github.com/thanks4opensource/rosegarden-fork/blob/thanks4opensrc_devel/README.md#acknowledgment_and_motivation


> As far as feature requests go, I submitted #500 
> (https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/feature-requests/500/) over a year 
> ago but it received no responses or discussion. I implemented a version 
> of it back in October, and apologize for not submitting it as a merge 
> request at that time. But there had been no action on my merges for the 
> six months prior to that, and I eventually gave up and instead released 
> my independent fork of Rosegarden.
> 
> Ironically, this feature was one of the two things that originally got 
> me involved in Rosegarden development. I misunderstood that the 
> new-at-the-time "Highlight black notes" mode was locked to C major 
> concert pitch instead of matching the current key signature as I 
> intuitively assumed it would (like "Highlight triads"). I even 
> advertised my ignorance in a February 2022 post to the rosegarden-devel 
> list (https://sourceforge.net/p/rosegarden/mailman/message/37612752/). 
> Ah, those long-ago days when I was blissfully naive about all things 
> Rosegarden. ;)
> 
> Finally, if anyone wants to try the fork's code (or merge some of it 
> into official Rosegarden) note that it currently only implements major 
> and minor scales (in any desired key). It does not yet have the 
> additional capabilities proposed in FR500, such as modes (dorian, 
> lydian, etc) or arbitrary non-diatonic scales (whole tone, half-whole, 
> etc). Also note that I'm on the verge of releasing a major update so you 
> might want to wait for that.
> 
> As a further irony, Musecore did have these features (modes, scales) in 
> its "piano roll editor" which in all other ways was vastly inferior to 
> Rosegarden's "matrix" (it could only edit a single 
> staff/instrument/part/"segment" at once, had a clumsy interface for 
> manipulating notes, etc). But that was Musescore 3, and they completely 
> removed the editor in Musescore 4! I guess some people are just haters 
> on anything that's not standard music notation. ;)
> 
> Thanks for this opportunity to offer the open-source software I've 
> contributed to those who might be interested in what it provides.
> 
> On 3/25/23 4:36 AM, Ted Felix wrote:
>>    Assuming you are in the matrix editor, the best you can do is 
>> highlight the I (or i) chord.  Go to View > Highlight > Highlight 
>> Triads.  That will darken the 1 3 and 5 degrees of the scale in the 
>> current key.
>>
>>    If that's not good enough, feel free to open a feature request. 
>> Philip can probably implement this pretty quickly as he implemented 
>> the black keys mode.
>>
>> Ted.
>>
>> On 3/23/23 1:55 AM, M. Yousaf wrote:
>>> How do I set a scale in Rosegarden? In the web app Bandlab, you can 
>>> select a scale and it will show you it on the keyboard. How would I 
>>> do this in Rosegarden? I don't want to use Bandlab, as it isn't 
>>> advanced enough, and doesn't have a music sheet option called 
>>> Notation Editor in rosegarden.
> 
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