Re: lwl servers

On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 05:03:38PM -0800, Frank Ibarra wrote:
> Hi folks.
> There has been discussion about the development continuing after the deadline; but what 
> about lwl servers?
> I am using windows, so running one is out of the question for me.
> 
> Any ideas or plans?
> 

That's what the idea has been in terms of using the jabber (or other
IM) network.  That would give presence notification, and host IP
addresses could also be transferred that way. The public servers
already exist to do that .  The problem with lwl is that it really
needs resources that will be maintained for the long term, and there's
no apparent way for that to happen yet.

That's all fairly easy.  The remaining problem is to do with
determining the remote network address if there is NAT in use.  A HTTP
request to a webserver will work as Thomas said, if there's no HTTP
proxy (or if the proxy is in the same NAT network).  It's not as big
an ask to host a simple script on a webserver as it is to host a lwl
server - or it may be that the user can supply The NAT information
directly in some cases.

So jabber can replace lwl, but I'm still hoping for something a bit
cleaner to come up for transparently determining NAT addresses.  Until
it's working, you can always initiate a conversation via a jabber or
other IM client, and tell your address to the other party manually,
and in the case of a NAT, use a web browser to first determine your
own address.


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