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On Feb 22, 2018 11:57 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Am 2018-02-22 um 17:26 schrieb [email protected]:
>
> I really don't think this is anything to worry about. This kind of rule is
> community moderated; it's not as if Discourse itself is going to chide
> people for having off-topic replies. So it's just a matter of the
threading
> model being designed to "encourage" that, which I maybe don't think is
such
> a sin. Honestly it really is just good etiquette to start off-topic
threads
> in another chain.
It's not about off-topic threads, it's just about how communication
happens on the mailinglist. I really like the threaded view in my email
client as it allows me to see immediately who answered to what. When a
thread spins off within a topic it often means that a different light is
shed on the topic. That's why I find a decent thread view important. I
rather find it distracting if a new topic is opened for every sub-thread.
There's certainly a balance to be found. Not all behavior on the mailing
list will be to everyone's personal taste. We don't impose rules at the
moment, and people seem to have found a good balance themselves.
> I think the reason people don't do that here is that it's
> easy not to, rather than that it fits some community value. And also,
after
> browsing some of the more recent postings, I can't find a thread where
this
> display style has hurt my experience in the way you're describing; it
seems
> to really improve the experience in the majority of cases.
No, not mine.
I understand, I was sharing my personal experience.
>
>>From what I've seen Discourse will greatly enhance the
> non-developer-friendliness of the list by making quoting and links
clearer,
> providing a more modern visual interface, and the various other gizmos
> already described by Scott C. We get a fair number of complaints about
> people not wanting to use Nabble/the list because of that interface; I
> think this would go a long way in alleviating that and getting more people
> actively involved in discussion.
I fully agree, except for the threading thing. Anyway, I want to
continue reading the list within my email client. I don't like html
formatting and other fanciness there, so I've turned off that (writing
in plain text also allows formatting code properly with correct
indentation, etc.).
It's good that you've found something that works for you. Many users coming
from, for example, the Facebook group are going to be used to having
discussions in a feature-heavy format, so as long as both ways of
interaction are possible and mirrored, it sounds like having a discourse
mirror will work for you while also making things friendly for those other
users.
My main complaint about nabble would be that it eats parts of the
messages sometimes. Also, messages from people who subscribed to nabble
aren't automatically forwarded to the list (probably the biggest
disadvantage).
Anyway, if discourse is going to replace nabble I can probably live with
it. I'm not going to move over to the forum for posting and reading but
it's important to have an archive, allowing to point to specific
messages. For everything else I'm going to stick with the mailinglist in
my email client - be it as old-fashioned as it is.
Stefan
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