Re: Future of the lists

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Thanks immensely for this list Scott W, it has been a very nice entry point
into sc for me and i do think the forum will be perfectly fine for the
future.
Besides, 20 years of an archive for this list must already be an absolute
gold mine of information ! I'm very excited to dive into it and make
discoveries.
Kind regards,
Max

Le sam. 12 juin 2021 =C3=A0 00:02, <scott-y6qSm6YX8/[email protected]> a =C3=A9crit :

> Eternal thanks to Scott W for maintaining the mailing lists all these
> years. These have been a continuously positive and helpful resource for m=
e
> for ~15 years of using SuperCollider, in no small part to both Scott W an=
d
> all the other core contributors answering messages, providing help, and
> setting a positive tone.
>
> The scsynth forum has also grown into an incredible positive and helpful
> space over the years of its existence. To address a few things that have
> come up in this thread:
>
> - Discourse, the backend software for scsynth.org, *is a fully
> open-source and community-run project
> (https://github.com/discourse/discourse
> <https://github.com/discourse/discourse>).* A few years ago, when I
> looked into modern and well-maintained mailing list / community discussio=
n
> platforms as an alternative to the current mailing list stack, Discourse
> stood out to me as a clear winner in terms of stability, features,
> easy-of-deployment, etc. It has been used by several other much larger OS
> music communities (in particular, the lines forum <https://llllllll.co/>)
> with great success.
>
> - The current scsynth.org list was started by Ismael, with setup help
> from a few other core SC community members (myself included). It's
> currently moderated and maintained <https://scsynth.org/g/moderators> by
> James Harkins, Josh Parmenter, Julian Rohrhuber, Scott Wilson, James
> Surgener, Thomas Capogreco, Ismael, and myself. This list fell together
> naturally, based on people who were already core community members / who
> was paying attention to the day-to-day operations of the forum.
>
> - The forum is hosted as a docker image run on a Digital Ocean cloud
> droplet. Backups are made regularly and are available to all
> administrators, so there's no danger of "losing" archived material, and
> anyone could spin up a new iteration of the forum if needed. In this sens=
e,
> it's truly a community owned platform for us.
>
> - The forum has historically been self-funded by Ismael, with a few other=
s
> donating money - we're discussing starting a patreon / other funding sour=
ce
> to share this burden (though it's not widlly expensive), or possibly movi=
ng
> to university-backed hosting, if we can figure out the details. The prima=
ry
> concern here is that the forum is easy to maintain, and remains as
> autonomous and community-operated / owned as possible.
>
> - When I did an initial trial run of Discourse as a hosting platform, I
> tested mailing list mode extensively. In testing, it appeared to work as
> good or better than a traditional mailman/majordomo mailing lists - it is
> possible to use the scsynth forum PURELY via email, including both creati=
ng
> new topics and responding to topics. There was a short period in March
> where mailing list mode settings changed due to an update, and mail didn'=
t
> get delivered for a few days - this should be resolved. *If you have
> mailing list mode turned on <https://scsynth.org/my/preferences/email> an=
d
> are not receiving emails for all posts please post in Meta
> <https://scsynth.org/c/meta/16>, because this definitely is a bug or
> configuration issue.*
>
> I'm going to do some more testing of mailing list mode in the coming week
> or so, to make sure everything is configured correctly for an email-only
> experience.* I'*ll post a short guide about my experience, hopefully to
> address any remaining concerns about email-only usage.
>
> I hope this clears up any confusion! If you have any issues or questions,
> please send a message to the *moderators group* on scsynth.org and we can
> address it. For anyone not already on the forum, welcome - we look forwar=
d
> to seeing you!
>
> - Scott C
>
>
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks immensely for this list Scott W, it has been a=
 very nice entry point into sc for me and i do think the forum will be perf=
ectly fine for the future.</div><div>Besides, 20 years of an archive for th=
is list must already be an absolute gold mine of information ! I&#39;m very=
 excited to dive into it and make discoveries.</div><div>Kind regards,</div=
><div>Max<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"gmail_attr">Le=C2=A0sam. 12 juin 2021 =C3=A0=C2=A000:02, &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:scott-y6qSm6YX8/[email protected]">scott-y6qSm6YX8/[email protected]</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit=C2=
=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div>Eternal thanks to Scott W for maintaining the mailing lists all =
these years. These have been a continuously positive and helpful resource f=
or me for ~15 years of using SuperCollider, in no small part to both Scott =
W and all the other core contributors answering messages, providing help, a=
nd setting a positive tone.</div><div><br></div><div>The scsynth forum has =
also grown into an incredible positive and helpful space over the years of =
its existence. To address a few things that have come up in this thread:</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>- Discourse, the backend software for <a href=3D"htt=
p://scsynth.org" target=3D"_blank">scsynth.org</a>, <b>is a fully open-sour=
ce and community-run project (<a href=3D"https://github.com/discourse/disco=
urse" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/discourse/discourse</a>).</b> A =
few years ago, when I looked into modern and well-maintained mailing list /=
 community discussion platforms as an alternative to the current mailing li=
st stack, Discourse stood out to me as a clear winner in terms of stability=
, features, easy-of-deployment, etc. It has been used by several other much=
 larger OS music communities (in particular, the <a href=3D"https://lllllll=
l.co/" target=3D"_blank">lines forum</a>) with great success.<br></div><div=
><br></div><div>- The current <a href=3D"http://scsynth.org" target=3D"_bla=
nk">scsynth.org</a> list was started by Ismael, with setup help from a few =
other core SC community members (myself included). It&#39;s currently <a hr=
ef=3D"https://scsynth.org/g/moderators" target=3D"_blank">moderated and mai=
ntained</a> by James Harkins, Josh Parmenter, Julian Rohrhuber, Scott Wilso=
n, James Surgener, Thomas Capogreco, Ismael, and myself. This list fell tog=
ether naturally, based on people who were already core community members / =
who was paying attention to the day-to-day operations of the forum.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>- The forum is hosted as a docker image run on a Digital =
Ocean cloud droplet. Backups are made regularly and are available to all ad=
ministrators, so there&#39;s no danger of &quot;losing&quot; archived mater=
ial, and anyone could spin up a new iteration of the forum if needed. In th=
is sense, it&#39;s truly a community owned platform for us.<br><br>- The fo=
rum has historically been self-funded by Ismael, with a few others donating=
 money - we&#39;re discussing starting a patreon / other funding source to =
share this burden (though it&#39;s not widlly expensive), or possibly movin=
g to university-backed hosting, if we can figure out the details. The prima=
ry concern here is that the forum is easy to maintain, and remains as auton=
omous and community-operated / owned as possible.</div><div><br></div><div>=
- When I did an initial trial run of Discourse as a hosting platform, I tes=
ted mailing list mode extensively. In testing, it appeared to work as good =
or better than a traditional mailman/majordomo mailing lists - it is possib=
le to use the scsynth forum PURELY via email, including both creating new t=
opics and responding to topics. There was a short period in March where mai=
ling list mode settings changed due to an update, and mail didn&#39;t get d=
elivered for a few days - this should be resolved. <b>If you have <a href=
=3D"https://scsynth.org/my/preferences/email" target=3D"_blank">mailing lis=
t mode turned on</a> and are not receiving emails for all posts please post=
 in <a href=3D"https://scsynth.org/c/meta/16" target=3D"_blank">Meta</a>, b=
ecause this definitely is a bug or configuration issue.</b><br><b></b></div=
><div><br>I&#39;m going to do some more testing of mailing list mode in the=
 coming week or so, to make sure everything is configured correctly for an =
email-only experience.<b> I&#39;</b>ll post a short guide about my experien=
ce, hopefully to address any remaining concerns about email-only usage.<b><=
br></b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>I hope this clears up any confusion=
! If you have any issues or questions, please send a message to the <b>mode=
rators group</b> on <a href=3D"http://scsynth.org" target=3D"_blank">scsynt=
h.org</a> and we can address it. For anyone not already on the forum, welco=
me - we look forward to seeing you!<br><br>- Scott C<b><br></b></div><div><=
b><br></b></div><div><b></b><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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