Re: sc-users is closing down

This is really important! I=E2=80=99ve copied in Scott Carver, Josh =
Parmenter, and Brian Heim, who are all admins on the forum, just to make =
sure this is seen.=20

Hi you three, apologies for not raising this on the forum itself, but as =
you can see below, mlang has some issues contributing there. Is there =
anything that can be done to improve accessibility for users with visual =
impairments? It would really be tragic if closing the lists meant =
visually impaired people were excluded to any extent.

mlang, thank you for raising this! I confess I had no idea this was an =
issue with discourse.

S.


> On 24 Jun 2021, at 14:21, [email protected] wrote:
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> [email protected] writes:
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>> Hi All,
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>> As some of you will know from the discussions here, this list will be =
closing
>> down. We=E2=80=99re encouraging all users to join the forum at =
https://scsynth.org/
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> This is sad :-(
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> I refrained from commenting during the discussion, mostly because I no
> longer think the exceptional situation of a single person can =
influence
> current trends, and likely also because I was afraid of the grief I
> would be feeling just having to participate in such a discussion.
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> I see the trend since a few years.  Slack, Discorse, and of course web
> forumss.  All of these are pretty much excluding for me.
> I am blind.  And while I can use a modern web browser if I have to, =
the
> inherent inefficiencies and accessibility problems make it pretty much =
a
> no-fun experience.  Well-defined protocols like SMTP/IMAP made it easy =
for
> me to participate in a group like sc-users, because I was able to =
choose
> the client software I am able to use efficiently.
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> In this particular situation, it will lead to me going into read-only
> mode.  I will likely not contribute to scsynth.org simply because I am
> forced to go via the web.  I might be able to stay in lurking mode as
> long as the RSS interface works and the post pages stay clean enough =
to
> be consumed with a text browser.  But I am assuming even that is going
> to go away after a few years.  Well, such is life.
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> When I was young, I was hoping for computer accessibility to be an eye
> for the blind to the rest of the world.  After 25 years of surfing on
> the various waves of the Internet, I realize certain trends have
> actually done the contrary.  The list of things I know about and would =
want to
> take part in but can't because they are inherently inaccessible is
> growing on a daily basis.  At least at work I was able to crawl into =
my
> little corner of "command-line expert" and will maybe be able to hide
> there before I retire.  Maybe, we will see.
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> I know that this letter is not going to change things, and I dont =
expect
> that.  But I have to say this aloud: The way the internet is going is
> wrong. Pretending otherwise doesn't make it right.
> Open standards are replaced with proprietary web-based interfaces.
> And nobody seems to care.
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> Question is, how many years will it take until BLM could also mean
> "blind lives matter"?  Given the current trend, never.
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> It was a pleasure to read you all, kthxbye
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> --=20
> CYa,
>  =E2=A1=8D=E2=A0=81=E2=A0=97=E2=A0=8A=E2=A0=95
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