Re: [ANN] NGBackup — enterprise backup rewritten in Rust (dedup, cross-hypervisor V2V, ransomware detection)

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Heitor,

I think it would be good to reconsider how you present your product in th=
is context. The discussion has escalated quite a bit, and it probably doe=
s not help to showcase your solution in the best way.

It is also not entirely clear why you chose to present this product here,=
 since it does not seem to be directly related to Bacula Backup and may t=
herefore be somewhat out of place.

In addition, your long=E2=80=91term role as a Bacula Systems partner, app=
arently selling the software successfully for years, raises questions abo=
ut why you now describe it in such negative terms.

You should also be aware that public attacks against a company and indivi=
dual members, especially when they contain strong accusations, can in som=
e jurisdictions be viewed as defamation and potentially lead to legal act=
ion, depending on the applicable law and whether the statements are demon=
strably false and harmful.

> On Samstag, Juli 04, 2026 at 10:55 PM, Heitor =46aria <heitorfaria=40gm=
ail.com (mailto:heitorfaria=40gmail.com)> wrote:
> >
> > I assume you replied to my list mail only directly to me because I
> > aparently somehow screwed up with my reply-to setting. (If any reply-=
to
> > is set here, this is *not* my intention.)
> >
> > I do prefer to keep this discussion public, which is the reason I sen=
t
> > to the list in the first place. I think replying only directly is
> > inappropriate.
>
> LSG Group is a solid IT solutions developer from Brazil.
>
> > > I've done what your crappy development team haven't done in 20 year=
s.
> >
> > Sure. However, =22my=22 development team can at least claim that what=
 was
> > backed up with their product 20 years ago can still be restored today=
,
> > and what I learnt about their software is still useful today. I consi=
der
> > that not particularly crappy.
>
> At what cost=3F Disatisfaction=3F Huge customer churn=3F Downsizing and=
 retraction for at least, 2 years=3F
> =46ake reviews=3F
>
> >
> > Also, I don't own them. In fact, we sometimes disagree, and I'm quite=

> > sure they never took any orders from me.
> >
> > > > Or, as a suggestion: Perhaps you should find another person in yo=
ur
> > > holding to communicate all your exciting projects. I think you're l=
osing
> > > credibility. At least try to set up some consistent mail addresses.=

> > >
> > > You are a community project manager
> >
> > I'm not aware of that role. If somebody put me there I would object a=
nd
> > point out that I'd probably be the worst possible choice anyway.
>
> You are one of this list admin... Don't you=3F
>
> > > and also one of the Bacula Systems
> > > SA founders - entities with =22no relations=22=3F
> >
> > Did my questions in any way imply that I had no relation to Bacula
> > Systems=3F (Anybody interested to know -- yes, most of my work is for=

> > Bacula Systems and often involves direct contact with Bacula Systems'=

> > customers and prospects, where I do represent Bacula Systems. I am,
> > however, neither an employee nor a manager of that company. My mail
> > signature is technically and legally correct, and while I probably co=
uld
> > subscribe here with a baculasystems.com (http://baculasystems.com) ad=
dress, I never did so and have
> > good reasons to stick with what I have.)
>
> =22Arno Lehmann is not the founder of Bacula Systems, but he is a promi=
nent co-founder of the company and one of its key solution architects and=
 training leads.The original creator of the open-source Bacula project an=
d the primary founder of Bacula Systems (founded in 2009) is Kern Sibbald=
.=22 https://www.baculasystems.com/blog/cloud-expo-europe-2021/
> > > - don't fuck =46UD my project.
> > > A community based on threats and lies
> >
> > Erm... did I ever threaten you=3F Or anybody else you know of=3F
> >
> > Did I ever lie to you=3F
> >
> > Or do you address the whole community around here=3F
>
> Your group, Arno. your community and company.
>
> > Talking on behalf of such a business structure with a google email
> > address does seem a bit unprofessional to me, so I wanted to have thi=
s
> > clarified.
>
> My commercial email is: heitor=40ngbackup.com (mailto:heitor=40ngbackup=
.com)
> heitorfaria=40gmail.com (mailto:heitorfaria=40gmail.com) was used becau=
se it was the registered in this mailing list.
>
> > > =46arewall.
> >
> > As you don't seem interested in providing any clarification I'm sorry=
 to
> > see that my admittedly provocative way to ask aparently made you leav=
e
> > this group here.
>
> Don't worry. I don't fear Kern, Rob, or anyone who threatens me with =22=
fake messengers=22.
>
> Rgds.
> =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=
=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F
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=22auto=22><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>Heitor,=C2=A0</div=
><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><br></div><div id=3D=22Canar=
yBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>I think it would be good to reconsider how you =
present your product in this context. The discussion has escalated quite =
a bit, and it probably does not help to showcase your solution in the bes=
t way.</div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><br></div><div id=
=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>It is also not entirely clear why yo=
u chose to present this product here, since it does not seem to be direct=
ly related to Bacula Backup and may therefore be somewhat out of place.</=
div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><br></div><div id=3D=22Ca=
naryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>In addition, your long=E2=80=91term role as =
a Bacula Systems partner, apparently selling the software successfully fo=
r years, raises questions about why you now describe it in such negative =
terms.</div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><br></div><div id=
=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>You should also be aware that public=
 attacks against a company and individual members, especially when they c=
ontain strong accusations, can in some jurisdictions be viewed as defamat=
ion and potentially lead to legal action, depending on the applicable law=
 and whether the statements are demonstrably false and harmful.</div> <di=
v><br></div> </div> <div id=3D=22CanarySig=22> <div> <div><br></div> <div=
><br></div> </div> </div> <div id=3D=22CanaryDropbox=22> </div> <blockquo=
te id=3D=22CanaryBlockquote=22> <div> <div>On Samstag, Juli 04, 2026 at 1=
0:55 PM, Heitor =46aria &lt;<a href=3D=22mailto:heitorfaria=40gmail.com=22=
>heitorfaria=40gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div> <div><div dir=3D=22ltr=22=
><div class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote gmail=5Fquote=5Fcontainer=22><blockquote c=
lass=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=22><br>I assume you replied=
 to my list mail only directly to me because I <br> aparently somehow scr=
ewed up with my reply-to setting. (If any reply-to <br> is set here, this=
 is *not* my intention.)<br> <br> I do prefer to keep this discussion pub=
lic, which is the reason I sent <br> to the list in the first place. I th=
ink replying only directly is <br> inappropriate.<br></blockquote><div><b=
r></div><div>LSG Group is a solid IT solutions developer from Brazil.=C2=A0=
</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex=22>&gt; I've done what your crappy development team haven't done i=
n 20 years.<br> <br> Sure. However, =22my=22 development team can at leas=
t claim that what was <br> backed up with their product 20 years ago can =
still be restored today, <br> and what I learnt about their software is s=
till useful today. I consider <br> that not particularly crappy.<br></blo=
ckquote><div><br></div><div>At what cost=3F Disatisfaction=3F Huge custom=
er churn=3F Downsizing and retraction for at least, 2 years=3F</div><div>=
=46ake reviews=3F</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D=22gmail=5Fqu=
ote=22 style=3D=22margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex=22> <br> Also, I don't own them. In fact, we so=
metimes disagree, and I'm quite <br> sure they never took any orders from=
 me.<br> <br> &gt;=C2=A0 &gt; Or, as a suggestion: Perhaps you should fin=
d another person in your<br> &gt; holding to communicate all your excitin=
g projects. I think you're losing<br> &gt; credibility. At least try to s=
et up some consistent mail addresses.<br> &gt; <br> &gt; You are a commun=
ity project manager<br> <br> I'm not aware of that role. If somebody put =
me there I would object and <br> point out that I'd probably be the worst=
 possible choice anyway.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You are one =
of this list admin... Don't you=3F</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote clas=
s=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=22>&gt; and also one of the Ba=
cula Systems <br> &gt; SA founders - entities with =22no relations=22=3F<=
br> <br> Did my questions in any way imply that I had no relation to Bacu=
la <br> Systems=3F (Anybody interested to know -- yes, most of my work is=
 for <br> Bacula Systems and often involves direct contact with Bacula Sy=
stems' <br> customers and prospects, where I do represent Bacula Systems.=
 I am, <br> however, neither an employee nor a manager of that company. M=
y mail <br> signature is technically and legally correct, and while I pro=
bably could <br> subscribe here with a <a href=3D=22http://baculasystems.=
com=22 rel=3D=22noreferrer=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>baculasystems.com</=
a> address, I never did so and have <br> good reasons to stick with what =
I have.)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=22Arno Lehmann is not the f=
ounder of Bacula Systems, but he is a prominent co-founder of the company=
 and one of its key solution architects and training leads.The original c=
reator of the open-source Bacula project and the primary founder of Bacul=
a Systems (founded in 2009) is Kern Sibbald.=22=C2=A0<a href=3D=22https:/=
/www.baculasystems.com/blog/cloud-expo-europe-2021/=22>https://www.bacula=
systems.com/blog/cloud-expo-europe-2021/</a><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><b=
lockquote class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=22>&gt; - don't =
fuck =46UD my project.<br> &gt; A community based on threats and lies<br>=
 <br> Erm... did I ever threaten you=3F Or anybody else you know of=3F<br=
> <br> Did I ever lie to you=3F<br> <br> Or do you address the whole comm=
unity around here=3F<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Your group, Arno=
. your community and company.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D=22=
gmail=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=22>Talking on behalf of such a busine=
ss structure with a google email <br> address does seem a bit unprofessio=
nal to me, so I wanted to have this <br> clarified.<br></blockquote><div>=
<br></div><div>My commercial email is: <a href=3D=22mailto:heitor=40ngbac=
kup.com=22>heitor=40ngbackup.com</a><br><a href=3D=22mailto:heitorfaria=40=
gmail.com=22>heitorfaria=40gmail.com</a> was used because it was the regi=
stered in this mailing list.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D=22g=
mail=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=22>&gt; =46arewall.<br> <br> As you do=
n't seem interested in providing any clarification I'm sorry to <br> see =
that my admittedly provocative way to ask aparently made you leave <br> t=
his group here.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Don't worry. I don't =
fear Kern, Rob, or anyone who threatens me with =22fake messengers=22.<br=
><br>Rgds.<br>=C2=A0</div></div></div> =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=
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