Re: The NGbackup
Reiner Jung via Bacula-users <[email protected]> Tue, 7 Jul 2026 16:12:40 +0300
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--===============1593221368142017889== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="6a4cfb48_1421971b_4def"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --6a4cfb48_1421971b_4def Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="6a4cfb48_cfc7321_4def" --6a4cfb48_cfc7321_4def Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline We are not here to discuss my business at all. This is about the product = you are trying to sell. Heitor, you have tried very hard to convince people about your new produc= t, which is essentially a recompiled or migrated Bacula Community version= rewritten in Rust. Based on your own public and shared documents, it is = very easy to see what it actually does and what it is capable of. There a= re simply many wrong design decisions and incorrect implementations. Just for the record: an AI is only as good as the person using it. I will give only one example from your own documentation that clearly sho= ws how useless some of the promises are that you make. Your anti-ransomwa= re feature performs several =E2=80=9Cchecks=E2=80=9D and then, after some= amount of time (if I remember correctly, about 30 minutes), it shuts dow= n the share. After 30 minutes the attacker has all the time in the world = to do their damage while you go and grab a coffee and wait for the disast= er to complete. Should I quote your own email to me after I pointed this out=3F Do you re= member your answer=3F You explicitly said it cannot replace a real ransom= ware protection solution. So why are you promoting it as such=3F You know= your software cannot do what you promise, but you still market it as a c= ore feature. In some parts of the world people call this a scam or fraud.= When someone sells a technology under false pretenses, that is at least = unethical and in some jurisdictions even criminal. The same applies to your =E2=80=9Csuper HA=E2=80=9D solution, including t= he SAP example you like to use. This is all based on your own publicly sh= ared information. Now, suddenly, you come up with a different story. If you try to sell a weak product, then at the very least the product sho= uld be finished, you should have done your homework, and you should not t= alk about customers you do not actually have. But maybe I am wrong and Br= azil has just been waiting for your solution. However, from my experience= in Brazil, your software would need to be genuinely open source, not =E2= =80=9Cfake source=E2=80=9D, to be taken seriously. I know what I am talking about. I assume you are familiar with the Brazil= ian federal open source migration guide (=E2=80=9CGuia Livre: Refer=C3=AA= ncia de Migra=C3=A7=C3=A3o para Software Livre do Governo =46ederal=E2=80= =9D), aren=E2=80=99t you=3F I received a copy years ago because of my con= tributions. The question still stands: why are you trying to sell this here=3F This i= s a Bacula mailing list, not an NGbackup marketing channel. If you want t= o promote your product, maybe your YouTube channel is the right place for= that. Just put in 500 coins and you will quickly reach 1,000 followers. When I use Bacula, I use the Enterprise edition, and I am quite sure you = cannot seriously compare your product with any of the established enterpr= ise solutions on the market. > On Dienstag, Juli 07, 2026 at 3:21 PM, Reiner Jung <r.jung=40mtier.org = (mailto:r.jung=40mtier.org)> wrote: > Wrong, you are not a competitor. We don=E2=80=99t do any Bacula communi= ty and never did > > > > Email r.jung=40mtier.org (mailto:r.jung=40mtier.org) > > > On Dienstag, Juli 07, 2026 at 3:19 PM, Heitor =46aria <heitorfaria=40= gmail.com (mailto:heitorfaria=40gmail.com)> wrote: > > =22faaleoleo.io (http://faaleoleo.io) =E2=80=94 who is behind the =22= dev-team=40faaleoleo.io (mailto:dev-team=40faaleoleo.io)=22 attacks > > An anonymous sender using the identity =22Dev Team=22 dev-team=40faal= eoleo.io (mailto:dev-team=40faaleoleo.io) has been posting hostile attack= s on NGBackup, both directly and to the public bacula-users mailing list.= The domain and email headers tie this identity to the Bacula / BareOS ci= rcle in Germany, specifically to Reiner Jung (M:Tier). > > > > SP=46 evidence. The SP=46 record for faaleoleo.io (http://faaleoleo.i= o) (which authorizes who may send email on its behalf) lists: > > > > 178.63.245.123 =E2=86=92 www.mtier.org (http://www.mtier.org) (M:Tier= , Reiner Jung's company) > > So faaleoleo.io (http://faaleoleo.io) explicitly authorizes M:Tier's = server to send mail for it. The domain also shares the same host and SP=46= IP block as its mail server mail.sec4share.me (http://mail.sec4share.me)= . All infrastructure is Hetzner, Germany. > > > > Header evidence (stronger than SP=46). The hostile email of 7 Jul 202= 6 (=22Re: =5BBacula-users=5D The NGbackup=22), =46rom dev-team=40faaleole= o.io (mailto:dev-team=40faaleoleo.io), was addressed To: Heitor =46aria a= nd Reiner Jung r.jung=40mtier.org (mailto:r.jung=40mtier.org). An earlier= attack (4 Jul) was addressed to Heitor and Arno Lehmann al=40its-lehmann= .de (mailto:al=40its-lehmann.de), another long-time Bacula figure. All me= ssages sent via mail.sec4share.me (http://mail.sec4share.me) using the =22= Canary=22 client, with DKIM failing for =40faaleoleo (consistent with a t= hrowaway/impersonation domain). > > > > Conclusion. The anonymous dev-team=40faaleoleo.io (mailto:dev-team=40= faaleoleo.io) identity is operated from, and SP=46-linked to, M:Tier's in= frastructure, and Reiner Jung is a named party on the attack thread. This= is the German Bacula/BareOS circle using a non-attributable identity to = attack a competitor. What is not provable is the exact person who typed e= ach message (the WHOIS registration is privacy-masked); the records prove= the infrastructure and the circle, not signed authorship.=22 > > > > Is this true, Reiner=3F > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 8:00=E2=80=AFAM Dev Team <dev-team=40faaleoleo= .io (mailto:dev-team=40faaleoleo.io)> wrote: > > > Heitor, > > > > > > NOBODY can/will run a backup on SAP which is not certified=21 You w= ill loose your support same moment. I think I know SAP and requirements w= ell. SAP have very hard requirements even how your setup for testing - st= aging and production must look like. > > > > > > Your is based on what=3F active active, stand by, bow failover work= . how you get a quorum=3F > > > > > > I really would like to talk to a customer of you which is experienc= e of your new development. Which if your customer use a Mainframe=3F Gove= rnment i know the responsible people in Brazil and I could ask them they = know anything about NG backup. 0r maybe SERPO=3F All my contacts dont kno= w anything about NGbackup > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dienstag, Juli 07, 2026 at 2:11 PM, Heitor =46aria <heitorfari= a=40gmail.com (mailto:heitorfaria=40gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > Hello Reiner, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed note. It's clear you read the material cl= osely, so let me answer point by point. > > > > > > > > PodHeitor vs NGBackup. You're conflating two different products (= thanks for being my fan). PodHeitor was built on Community Bacula and dep= recated for the better stuff. NGBackup is a from-scratch engine: 1,000+ R= ust source files, zero C, memory-safe by construction. That's not a marke= ting adjective. It's why the whole class of memory-corruption CVEs that l= egacy engines keep publishing cannot occur here. So =22nothing has change= d since PodHeitor=22 is simply wrong. Everything under the hood changed. > > > > > > > > =22Just repackaged community plugins.=22 Every NGBackup plugin is= written in one standard language, Rust, compiled and memory-safe. That i= s materially more performant and more serious than the open-ended PowerSh= ell/Python/shell scripts that other suites rely on for their plugins. Uni= form tooling, no interpreter sprawl, no per-plugin runtime surprises. Tha= t is original engineering, not copy-paste. > > > > > > > > High availability. This is real HA, not file copying. NGBackup ru= ns an active/standby Director pair with product-managed catalog and confi= guration replication. It supports automatic failover with witness quorum = and a split-brain guard, plus planned, unplanned, maintenance and test fa= ilover modes, and failback with reverse sync. Calling that =22SCP/S=46TP = somewhere=22 is not accurate. It is a designed control-plane HA architect= ure, and it is exactly what enterprise backup HA is supposed to mean. > > > > > > > > Deduplication. There's nothing to misunderstand here. Any backup = specialist knows dedup ratios improve as more repetitive, retained backup= s accumulate. We state the industry-standard 20x, with some environments = exceeding 60x at higher retention and redundancy. That's a range tied to = retention, reported exactly the way every dedup vendor reports one. Not a= lab trick. Arithmetic. > > > > > > > > Where else we are ahead of Bacula Enterprise: > > > > > > > > A single control plane. Every daemon (Director, SD, =46D) is remo= tely reconfigurable, reloadable and restartable from one place, including= remote SD/=46D config edits with validation, atomic apply and rollback. = Bacula has none of this. > > > > Config-as-data. Director configuration lives in the database as i= mmutable, versioned revisions. No config-file sprawl across daemons and p= lugins. > > > > No clear-text passwords in files. Enrollment is token-based. Secr= ets are sealed, never written in plaintext to a .conf. > > > > Modern and vastly more complete Web and console interfaces. > > > > Mainframe / SAP HANA. We have real customers running both in Braz= il. The ADABAS plugin ships today. z/OS binaries are being built. On SAP = HANA specifically, the absence of a formal certification badge doesn't me= an the capability can't be delivered. Certification is a commercial and p= artnership step, not a technical ceiling. We have customers on it. > > > > Bloom filters and segment locality in Dedup for better performanc= e. > > > > > > > > Pricing. Enterprise backup is quote-based across this market. Bac= ula Enterprise and the other vendors don't publish price lists either. Ou= rs is the same model, with a concrete migration discount for teams leavin= g Veeam, Commvault or NetBackup. > > > > > > > > On the =22copy-paste=22 thesis generally. A single Rust control p= lane, active/standby HA with automatic failover, config-as-data in the ca= talog, tokenized enrollment with no plaintext secrets, and Rust-native pl= ugins are not things the community project offers. That is original desig= n, and it's shipping. > > > > > > > > I'll note, since it's relevant to the tone here, that you have a = commercial relationship with Bacula Systems, and this critique arrives al= ongside messages on LinkedIn that I'd characterize as threats. I'm glad t= o have a technical debate on the merits. I'd rather keep it there. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Heitor =46aria > > > > NGBackup / NGStructures, LSG Global Group > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 6:41=E2=80=AFAM Reiner Jung <r.jung=40mtie= r.org (mailto:r.jung=40mtier.org)> wrote: > > > > > Heitor, > > > > > > > > > > It looks as if the only real selling point of your solution is = that it is written in Rust. Apart from that, if you take a closer look at= what you are trying to sell here, it is just marketing fluff. > > > > > > > > > > Let=E2=80=99s take ransomware detection as an example. It is mo= re than doubtful that what you are selling now is any different from what= you already tried to market some time ago as PodHeitor. It was ineffecti= ve and pointless then, and nothing here suggests that has changed. > > > > > > > > > > Your claim of deduplication with a 60x factor is highly questio= nable. I have no idea how you arrive at such numbers =E2=80=93 presumably= under idealized lab conditions with a carefully selected configuration t= hat has little to do with reality. > > > > > > > > > > You also write: > > > > > > > > > > =E2=80=9C=46rom the mainframe to Microsoft 365 in one place =E2= =80=94 21 database, virtualization and cloud plugins.=E2=80=9D > > > > > > > > > > I assume you do not have a mainframe at home, and it does not a= ppear on your actual plugin list either. This makes your marketing statem= ent misleading at best. As PodHeitor there was ever SAP HANA. You never c= an provide this as you must be a partner and you are not. > > > > > > > > > > Your so=E2=80=91called =E2=80=9Chigh availability=E2=80=9D is n= o such thing; at most it is a simple failover where you copy files somewh= ere else using SCP/S=46TP. Architecturally, this is just wrong and falls = far short of what real HA means in enterprise backup. Is this really auto= matic failure=3F Ask you AI, it is not. > > > > > > > > > > Your entire solution looks just as fragile as your previous off= erings that you kept promoting with bpipe and similar tools. > > > > > > > > > > There is also no transparent price list, just a vague promise t= o be 50% cheaper than Veeam. Where are your actual prices=3F On your own = site, you instead advertise discounts of =E2=80=9C=E2=89=A5 50% off your = current Veeam / Commvault / NetBackup contract,=E2=80=9D which raises eve= n more questions about how realistic and sustainable your pricing is. > > > > > > > > > > Based on the documents you have published in the past, it is do= ubtful that you even fully understood what your AI-generated material is = saying. > > > > > > > > > > Most of the features you list here are not innovations at all b= ut a cheap copy of what you have simply recompiled or repackaged from Bac= ula Community, which already offers many plugins and advanced backup func= tions in open source form. > > > > > > > > > > The more interesting question is how you and your development t= eam intend to further develop Bacula Core itself, or whether you are once= again just waiting for the next community release so you can copy new fe= atures into your product. > > > > > > > > > > Innovation does not come from copy and paste. It comes from ori= ginal design, real-world testing, and delivering value beyond what the co= mmunity has already built. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Atenciosamente, > > > > > > > > Heitor faria (Miami) > > > > https://ngbackup.com (https://ngbackup.com/) > > > > WhatsApp: +1 786-726-1749 =7C +55 61 98268-4220 > > > > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= > > > > Bacula-users mailing list > > > > Bacula-users=40lists.sourceforge.net (mailto:Bacula-users=40lists= .sourceforge.net) > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users > > > > > > -- > > Atenciosamente, > > > > Heitor faria (Miami) > > https://ngbackup.com (https://ngbackup.com/) > > WhatsApp: +1 786-726-1749 =7C +55 61 98268-4220 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --6a4cfb48_cfc7321_4def Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline <html xmlns=3D=22http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml=22><head> <title></title> <= meta name=3D=22viewport=22 content=3D=22width=3Ddevice-width, initial-sca= le=3D1.0, user-scalable=3Dno=22> </head> <body style=3D=22font-family:Hel= vetica;color:=23000000;font-size:13px;=22><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D= =22auto=22><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>We are not here to= discuss my business at all. This is about the product you are trying to = sell.<br></div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><br></div><div= id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>Heitor, you have tried very hard = to convince people about your new product, which is essentially a recompi= led or migrated Bacula Community version rewritten in Rust. Based on your= own public and shared documents, it is very easy to see what it actually= does and what it is capable of. There are simply many wrong design decis= ions and incorrect implementations.</div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D= =22auto=22><br></div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>Just for= the record: an AI is only as good as the person using it.</div><div id=3D= =22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><br></div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 di= r=3D=22auto=22>I will give only one example from your own documentation t= hat clearly shows how useless some of the promises are that you make. You= r anti-ransomware feature performs several =E2=80=9Cchecks=E2=80=9D and t= hen, after some amount of time (if I remember correctly, about 30 minutes= ), it shuts down the share. After 30 minutes the attacker has all the tim= e in the world to do their damage while you go and grab a coffee and wait= for the disaster to complete.</div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22a= uto=22><br></div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>Should I quo= te your own email to me after I pointed this out=3F Do you remember your = answer=3F You explicitly said it cannot replace a real ransomware protect= ion solution. So why are you promoting it as such=3F You know your softwa= re cannot do what you promise, but you still market it as a core feature.= In some parts of the world people call this a scam or fraud. When someon= e sells a technology under false pretenses, that is at least unethical an= d in some jurisdictions even criminal.</div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 di= r=3D=22auto=22>The same applies to your =E2=80=9Csuper HA=E2=80=9D soluti= on, including the SAP example you like to use. This is all based on your = own publicly shared information. Now, suddenly, you come up with a differ= ent story.</div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><br></div><di= v id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>If you try to sell a weak produc= t, then at the very least the product should be finished, you should have= done your homework, and you should not talk about customers you do not a= ctually have. But maybe I am wrong and Brazil has just been waiting for y= our solution. However, from my experience in Brazil, your software would = need to be genuinely open source, not =E2=80=9Cfake source=E2=80=9D, to b= e taken seriously.</div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><br><= /div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>I know what I am talking= about. I assume you are familiar with the Brazilian federal open source = migration guide (=E2=80=9CGuia Livre: Refer=C3=AAncia de Migra=C3=A7=C3=A3= o para Software Livre do Governo =46ederal=E2=80=9D), aren=E2=80=99t you=3F= I received a copy years ago because of my contributions.</div><div id=3D= =22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><br></div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 di= r=3D=22auto=22>The question still stands: why are you trying to sell this= here=3F This is a Bacula mailing list, not an NGbackup marketing channel= . If you want to promote your product, maybe your YouTube channel is the = right place for that. Just put in 500 coins and you will quickly reach 1,= 000 followers.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22= ><br></div><div id=3D=22CanaryBody=22 dir=3D=22auto=22>When I use Bacula,= I use the Enterprise edition, and I am quite sure you cannot seriously c= ompare your product with any of the established enterprise solutions on t= he market.=C2=A0<br></div> </div> <div id=3D=22CanarySig=22> <div> <div><= br></div> </div> </div> <div id=3D=22CanaryDropbox=22> </div> <blockquote= id=3D=22CanaryBlockquote=22> <div> <div>On Dienstag, Juli 07, 2026 at 3:= 21 PM, Reiner Jung <<a href=3D=22mailto:r.jung=40mtier.org=22>r.jung=40= mtier.org</a>> wrote:<br></div> <div style=3D=22font-family:Helvetica;= color:=23000000;font-size:13px;=22><div id=3D=22=22 dir=3D=22auto=22> <di= v> Wrong, you are not a competitor. We don=E2=80=99t do any Bacula commun= ity and never did</div> <div><br></div> </div> <div id=3D=22=22> <div> <d= iv style=3D=22font-family:Helvetica;=22><br style=3D=22font-family: -appl= e-system, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; lette= r-spacing: 0.13px; line-height: 1.2;=22><br style=3D=22font-family: -appl= e-system, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; lette= r-spacing: 0.13px; line-height: 1.2;=22><span style=3D=22font-family: -ap= ple-system, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; let= ter-spacing: 0.13px; line-height: 1.2;=22>Email =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D=22mailto:r.jung=40mti= er.org=22 class=3D=22=22 style=3D=22letter-spacing: 0.01em; line-height: = 1.2; text-decoration: none =21important; border-bottom-width: 1px =21impo= rtant; border-bottom-style: dotted =21important; border-bottom-color: rgb= (58, 154, 252) =21important;=22>r.jung=40mtier.org</a></span><br></div> <= div><br></div> </div> </div> <div id=3D=22CanaryDropbox=22> </div> <block= quote id=3D=22=22> <div> <div>On Dienstag, Juli 07, 2026 at 3:19 PM, Heit= or =46aria <<a href=3D=22mailto:heitorfaria=40gmail.com=22>heitorfaria= =40gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div> <div><div dir=3D=22ltr=22><div dir=3D= =22ltr=22><div dir=3D=22ltr=22>=22<a href=3D=22http://faaleoleo.io=22>faa= leoleo.io</a> =E2=80=94 who is behind the =22<a href=3D=22mailto:dev-team= =40faaleoleo.io=22>dev-team=40faaleoleo.io</a>=22 attacks<br>An anonymous= sender using the identity =22Dev Team=22 <a href=3D=22mailto:dev-team=40= faaleoleo.io=22>dev-team=40faaleoleo.io</a> has been posting hostile atta= cks on NGBackup, both directly and to the public bacula-users mailing lis= t. The domain and email headers tie this identity to the Bacula / BareOS = circle in Germany, specifically to Reiner Jung (M:Tier).<br><br>SP=46 evi= dence. The SP=46 record for <a href=3D=22http://faaleoleo.io=22>faaleoleo= .io</a> (which authorizes who may send email on its behalf) lists:<br><br= >178.63.245.123 =E2=86=92 <a href=3D=22http://www.mtier.org=22>www.mtier.= org</a> (M:Tier, Reiner Jung's company)<br>So <a href=3D=22http://faaleol= eo.io=22>faaleoleo.io</a> explicitly authorizes M:Tier's server to send m= ail for it. The domain also shares the same host and SP=46 IP block as it= s mail server <a href=3D=22http://mail.sec4share.me=22>mail.sec4share.me<= /a>. All infrastructure is Hetzner, Germany.<br><br>Header evidence (stro= nger than SP=46). The hostile email of 7 Jul 2026 (=22Re: =5BBacula-users= =5D The NGbackup=22), =46rom <a href=3D=22mailto:dev-team=40faaleoleo.io=22= >dev-team=40faaleoleo.io</a>, was addressed To: Heitor =46aria and Reiner= Jung <a href=3D=22mailto:r.jung=40mtier.org=22>r.jung=40mtier.org</a>. A= n earlier attack (4 Jul) was addressed to Heitor and Arno Lehmann <a href= =3D=22mailto:al=40its-lehmann.de=22>al=40its-lehmann.de</a>, another long= -time Bacula figure. All messages sent via <a href=3D=22http://mail.sec4s= hare.me=22>mail.sec4share.me</a> using the =22Canary=22 client, with DKIM= failing for =40faaleoleo (consistent with a throwaway/impersonation doma= in).<br><br>Conclusion. The anonymous <a href=3D=22mailto:dev-team=40faal= eoleo.io=22>dev-team=40faaleoleo.io</a> identity is operated from, and SP= =46-linked to, M:Tier's infrastructure, and Reiner Jung is a named party = on the attack thread. This is the German Bacula/BareOS circle using a non= -attributable identity to attack a competitor. What is not provable is th= e exact person who typed each message (the WHOIS registration is privacy-= masked); the records prove the infrastructure and the circle, not signed = authorship.=22<br><br>Is this true, Reiner=3F</div><br><div class=3D=22gm= ail=5Fquote gmail=5Fquote=5Fcontainer=22><div dir=3D=22ltr=22 class=3D=22= gmail=5Fattr=22>On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 8:00=E2=80=AFAM Dev Team <<a hr= ef=3D=22mailto:dev-team=40faaleoleo.io=22>dev-team=40faaleoleo.io</a>>= wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22 style=3D=22margi= n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1= ex=22><div style=3D=22font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13= px=22><div id=3D=22m=5F-7289606999999779334=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><div>Heit= or,</div><div><br></div><div>NOBODY can/will run a backup on SAP which is= not certified=21 You will loose your support same moment. I think I know= SAP and requirements well. SAP have very hard requirements even how your= setup for testing - staging and production must look like.=C2=A0</div><d= iv><br></div><div>Your is based on what=3F active active, stand by, bow f= ailover work. how you get a quorum=3F=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I re= ally would like to talk to a customer of you which is experience of your = new development. Which if your customer use a Mainframe=3F Government i k= now the responsible people in Brazil and I could ask them they know anyth= ing about NG backup. 0r maybe SERPO=3F All my contacts dont know anything= about NGbackup=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></div><div id=3D=22m=5F-7289606= 999999779334=22><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div id=3D= =22m=5F-7289606999999779334CanaryDropbox=22></div><blockquote id=3D=22m=5F= -7289606999999779334=22><div><div>On Dienstag, Juli 07, 2026 at 2:11 PM, = Heitor =46aria <<a href=3D=22mailto:heitorfaria=40gmail.com=22 target=3D= =22=5Fblank=22>heitorfaria=40gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div><div = dir=3D=22ltr=22>Hello Reiner,<br><br>Thanks for the detailed note. It's c= lear you read the material closely, so let me answer point by point.<br><= br>PodHeitor vs NGBackup. You're conflating two different products (thank= s for being my fan). PodHeitor was built on Community Bacula and deprecat= ed for the better stuff. NGBackup is a from-scratch engine: 1,000+ Rust s= ource files, zero C, memory-safe by construction. That's not a marketing = adjective. It's why the whole class of memory-corruption CVEs that legacy= engines keep publishing cannot occur here. So =22nothing has changed sin= ce PodHeitor=22 is simply wrong. Everything under the hood changed.<br><b= r>=22Just repackaged community plugins.=22 Every NGBackup plugin is writt= en in one standard language, Rust, compiled and memory-safe. That is mate= rially more performant and more serious than the open-ended PowerShell/Py= thon/shell scripts that other suites rely on for their plugins. Uniform t= ooling, no interpreter sprawl, no per-plugin runtime surprises. That is o= riginal engineering, not copy-paste.<br><br>High availability. This is re= al HA, not file copying. NGBackup runs an active/standby Director pair wi= th product-managed catalog and configuration replication. It supports aut= omatic failover with witness quorum and a split-brain guard, plus planned= , unplanned, maintenance and test failover modes, and failback with rever= se sync. Calling that =22SCP/S=46TP somewhere=22 is not accurate. It is a= designed control-plane HA architecture, and it is exactly what enterpris= e backup HA is supposed to mean.<br><br>Deduplication. There's nothing to= misunderstand here. Any backup specialist knows dedup ratios improve as = more repetitive, retained backups accumulate. We state the industry-stand= ard 20x, with some environments exceeding 60x at higher retention and red= undancy. That's a range tied to retention, reported exactly the way every= dedup vendor reports one. Not a lab trick. Arithmetic.<br><br>Where else= we are ahead of Bacula Enterprise:<br><br>A single control plane. Every = daemon (Director, SD, =46D) is remotely reconfigurable, reloadable and re= startable from one place, including remote SD/=46D config edits with vali= dation, atomic apply and rollback. Bacula has none of this.<br>Config-as-= data. Director configuration lives in the database as immutable, versione= d revisions. No config-file sprawl across daemons and plugins.<br>No clea= r-text passwords in files. Enrollment is token-based. Secrets are sealed,= never written in plaintext to a .conf.<br>Modern and vastly more complet= e Web and console interfaces.<br>Mainframe / SAP HANA. We have real custo= mers running both in Brazil. The ADABAS plugin ships today. z/OS binaries= are being built. On SAP HANA specifically, the absence of a formal certi= fication badge doesn't mean the capability can't be delivered. Certificat= ion is a commercial and partnership step, not a technical ceiling. We hav= e customers on it.<br>Bloom filters and segment locality in Dedup for bet= ter performance.<br><br>Pricing. Enterprise backup is quote-based across = this market. Bacula Enterprise and the other vendors don't publish price = lists either. Ours is the same model, with a concrete migration discount = for teams leaving Veeam, Commvault or NetBackup.<br><br>On the =22copy-pa= ste=22 thesis generally. A single Rust control plane, active/standby HA w= ith automatic failover, config-as-data in the catalog, tokenized enrollme= nt with no plaintext secrets, and Rust-native plugins are not things the = community project offers. That is original design, and it's shipping.<br>= <br>I'll note, since it's relevant to the tone here, that you have a comm= ercial relationship with Bacula Systems, and this critique arrives alongs= ide messages on LinkedIn that I'd characterize as threats. I'm glad to ha= ve a technical debate on the merits. I'd rather keep it there.<br><br>Bes= t regards,<br>Heitor =46aria<br>NGBackup / NGStructures, LSG Global Group= </div><br><div class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22><div dir=3D=22ltr=22 class=3D=22= gmail=5Fattr=22>On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 6:41=E2=80=AFAM Reiner Jung <<a= href=3D=22mailto:r.jung=40mtier.org=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>r.jung=40= mtier.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=22gmail=5Fquote=22= style=3D=22margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20= 4);padding-left:1ex=22><div><div id=3D=22m=5F-7289606999999779334m=5F3514= 217287192629826=22 dir=3D=22auto=22><div>Heitor,<br><div><br></div><div>I= t looks as if the only real selling point of your solution is that it is = written in Rust. Apart from that, if you take a closer look at what you a= re trying to sell here, it is just marketing fluff.</div><div><br></div><= div>Let=E2=80=99s take ransomware detection as an example. It is more tha= n doubtful that what you are selling now is any different from what you a= lready tried to market some time ago as PodHeitor. It was ineffective and= pointless then, and nothing here suggests that has changed.</div><div><b= r></div><div>Your claim of deduplication with a 60x factor is highly ques= tionable. I have no idea how you arrive at such numbers =E2=80=93 presuma= bly under idealized lab conditions with a carefully selected configuratio= n that has little to do with reality.</div><div><br></div><div>You also w= rite:</div><div><br></div><div>=E2=80=9C=46rom the mainframe to Microsoft= 365 in one place =E2=80=94 21 database, virtualization and cloud plugins= .=E2=80=9D</div><div><br></div><div>I assume you do not have a mainframe = at home, and it does not appear on your actual plugin list either. This m= akes your marketing statement misleading at best. As PodHeitor there was = ever SAP HANA. You never can provide this as you must be a partner and yo= u are not.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Your so=E2=80=91called =E2=80=9C= high availability=E2=80=9D is no such thing; at most it is a simple failo= ver where you copy files somewhere else using SCP/S=46TP. Architecturally= , this is just wrong and falls far short of what real HA means in enterpr= ise backup. Is this really automatic failure=3F Ask you AI, it is not.=C2= =A0</div><div><br></div><div>Your entire solution looks just as fragile a= s your previous offerings that you kept promoting with bpipe and similar = tools.</div><div><br></div><div>There is also no transparent price list, = just a vague promise to be 50% cheaper than Veeam. Where are your actual = prices=3F On your own site, you instead advertise discounts of =E2=80=9C=E2= =89=A5 50% off your current Veeam / Commvault / NetBackup contract,=E2=80= =9D which raises even more questions about how realistic and sustainable = your pricing is.</div><div><br></div><div>Based on the documents you have= published in the past, it is doubtful that you even fully understood wha= t your AI-generated material is saying.</div><div><br></div><div>Most of = the features you list here are not innovations at all but a cheap copy of= what you have simply recompiled or repackaged from Bacula Community, whi= ch already offers many plugins and advanced backup functions in open sour= ce form.</div><div><br></div><div>The more interesting question is how yo= u and your development team intend to further develop Bacula Core itself,= or whether you are once again just waiting for the next community releas= e so you can copy new features into your product.</div><div><br></div><di= v>Innovation does not come from copy and paste. It comes from original de= sign, real-world testing, and delivering value beyond what the community = has already built.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div id= =3D=22m=5F-7289606999999779334m=5F3514217287192629826CanaryDropbox=22></d= iv></div></blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D=22all=22></div><div><br></d= iv><span class=3D=22gmail=5Fsignature=5Fprefix=22>--<span class=3D=22gmai= l-Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span></span><br><div dir=3D=22ltr=22 c= lass=3D=22gmail=5Fsignature=22><div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Atenciosamente,<br><b= r>Heitor faria (Miami)<br><a href=3D=22https://ngbackup.com/=22 target=3D= =22=5Fblank=22>https://ngbackup.com</a><div>WhatsApp: +1 786-726-1749 =7C= =C2=A0+55 61 98268-4220<br></div></div></div>=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F<span class=3D=22gmail-Apple-converte= d-space=22>=C2=A0</span><br>Bacula-users mailing list<span class=3D=22gma= il-Apple-converted-space=22>=C2=A0</span><br><a href=3D=22mailto:Bacula-u= sers=40lists.sourceforge.net=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>Bacula-users=40li= sts.sourceforge.net</a><span class=3D=22gmail-Apple-converted-space=22>=C2= =A0</span><br><a href=3D=22https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/b= acula-users=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>https://lists.sourceforge.net/list= s/listinfo/bacula-users</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquot= e></div><div><br clear=3D=22all=22></div><div><br></div><span class=3D=22= gmail=5Fsignature=5Fprefix=22>--<span class=3D=22gmail-Apple-converted-sp= ace=22>=C2=A0</span></span><br><div dir=3D=22ltr=22 class=3D=22gmail=5Fsi= gnature=22><div dir=3D=22ltr=22>Atenciosamente,<br><br>Heitor faria (Miam= i)<br><a href=3D=22https://ngbackup.com/=22 target=3D=22=5Fblank=22>https= ://ngbackup.com</a><div>WhatsApp: +1 786-726-1749 =7C=C2=A0+55 61 98268-4= 220</div></div></div></div></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> </di= v> </blockquote> </body></html> --6a4cfb48_cfc7321_4def-- --6a4cfb48_1421971b_4def Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Canary PGP V3 iH4EABYKACYfHFJlaW5lciBKdW5nIDxyLmp1bmdAbXRpZXIub3JnPgUCakz7SAAK CRDC8nEOlndJlX1TAQC/25/iTdijsFEaumqIrvWbJODv7gl+YUxba6nvCyIQsAEA vBI2WVIsC4jxU/V1hsAcRZWyheThhOMZOPtr+nyHeAM= =VPkP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6a4cfb48_1421971b_4def-- --===============1593221368142017889== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --===============1593221368142017889== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Bacula-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users --===============1593221368142017889==--