Re: FW: JBoss 3.2 RC4

Kev, Nicky,

I've almost completed testing the build with the jboss RC4 release. There are a 
few issues, but I think they may be due to changes that have been made to the 
source since Version 1.0 was released.

I should have the new build files checked in tomorrow.

I agree with Kevin in that I don't see the necessity to upgrade existing 
installations until we make an official release of the new Phase 3 (Version 
1.1?) functionality.

Cheers,
Greg.

Quoting Kevin O'Neill <[email protected]>:

> On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 11:55, Pitkanen, Nicola wrote:
> > Hi Kev,
> > 
> > As you will be able to tell from the emails I have been firing Ari below, I
> have been trying to get his thoughts on upgrading to JBoss 3.2 RC4.  I have
> quite a few questions: 
> > 1 - can you briefly elaborate on what you mean by the fact that there are
> less issues in BELTS with the new version of JBOSS, and therefore, what are
> the real benefits of upgrading now.  
> 
> My instance (which is RC4 based) doesn't throw exceptions on shutdown.
> The current belts does throws an exception at shutdown that although not
> harmfull is a little disconcerting. There are significant fixes to the
> CMP engines handling of CMR attributes in RC4 over beta 3. Plus 100s of
> other bug fixes in jboss between beta 3 (the version belts 1.0 is based
> on) and rc4. I've been consistently running the latest version of 3.2
> (from cvs) and have had no issues.
> 
> > 2. what do you think the risks of upgrading now are ie. has this version
> been used substantially enough for us to feel confident that we won't be the
> first to find nasty things wrong with it?
> 
> I'm confident that it's more stable than the current version.
> 
> > 3 - what will be involved in the states/territories upgrading and is this
> likely to be something they can do on their own? (as we have only promised to
> do the initial implementation for them, not ongoing support, so they would
> need to manage getting this done)
> 
> As there is no "upgrader" for belts (there's a new use case). I'm not
> suggesting that the current 1.0 release be moved to 3.2 but that the 1.1
> development keep track with 3.2 releases with the aim that 1.1 will be
> released using 3.2 final.
> 
> Once we have finalised the use cases for 1.1 then we can look at the
> impact of the as yet to be written upgrader use case.
> 
> > 4 - what happens if they don't upgrade? would they be able to run the next
> version of BELTS if we build it/test it using JBOSS 3.2 RC4
> 
> The belts package incorporates the jboss server. So many 1.1 version of
> belts would use the specified server.
> 
> > --> if that all sounds promising, then we will need to get it installed on
> our test servers here so that we can also do some testing.
> 
> The development servers would be the first to move. This could be done
> very quickly (as we would just redefine the version of jboss the system
> builds with).
> 
> -k.
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Nicky
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stathopoulos, Ari 
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 10:48 AM
> > To: Pitkanen, Nicola
> > Subject: RE: [Belts-developer] JBoss 3.2 RC4
> > 
> > 
> > It's a good idea provided all the criteria mentioned below have been
> satisfied, and you're happy that there are no adverse affects on the
> application's operation....
> > 
> > It also helps that we're going to release another version of BELTS with
> extra functionality.  If we were only upgrading for the sake of JBOSS I would
> not advise it since it will the Sectors and systems that must take ownership
> of it.....
> > 
> > Since we are releasing a genuine build with extra functionality, then it's
> worth the upgrade and some documentation for the sectors and outlining the
> benefits and reasons.
> > 
> > Cheers & Good Luck
> > Ari
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pitkanen, Nicola 
> > Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 05:28
> > To: Stathopoulos, Ari
> > Subject: RE: [Belts-developer] JBoss 3.2 RC4
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks Ari. Does that mean that you think we should upgrade the project to
> this version as soon as possible.  Any reasons why you think we shouldn't /
> can't? Also, I presume we should do some of our own testing too?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Nicky
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stathopoulos, Ari 
> > Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 10:14 AM
> > To: Pitkanen, Nicola
> > Subject: RE: [Belts-developer] JBoss 3.2 RC4
> > 
> > 
> > Just Standard Practice to test it for an adequate period prior to putting
> it out there.
> > 
> > Kev has stated that he has been using it, and if that means across all
> areas of the business funationality that may be affected and internally so
> that no adverse impact is expected on operational integrity than that's
> fine...
> > 
> > Cheers
> > A.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pitkanen, Nicola 
> > Sent: Monday, 24 March 2003 09:56
> > To: Stathopoulos, Ari
> > Subject: FW: [Belts-developer] JBoss 3.2 RC4
> > 
> > 
> > Ari,
> > 
> > What are your thoughts on this? What impact would it have on already
> implemented BELTS systems?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Nicky  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin O'Neill [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Sunday, 23 March 2003 12:30 PM
> > To: BELTS - Developers
> > Subject: [Belts-developer] JBoss 3.2 RC4
> > 
> > 
> > JBoss 3.2 RC4 has hit the streets. I've been running BELTS with the 3.2
> > CVS version and with no issues (in fact less issues than are currently
> > encountered with the 3.2b3 version BELTS 1.0.0 is currently using).
> > 
> > I feel the project should be upgraded to this version as soon as
> > possible, any reasons why we shouldn't can't?
> > 
> > -k.
> -- 
> If you don't test then your code is only a collection of bugs which 
> apparently behave like a working program. 
> 
> Website: http://www.rocketred.com.au/blogs/kevin/
> 
> 
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