Re: Backwards development

Hi Denis.  I think there's something that needs to be clarified.

BMO is Mozilla's version of Bugzilla.  It happens to be the home of
upstream Bugzilla bugs, for historical reasons, but it is administered
separately.  BMO is owned by the Mozilla Corporation's Engineering
Productivity team and primarily serves to support Mozilla's engineering
efforts, mainly Firefox and family, but it also hosts bugs for other
Mozilla projects and a few projects not directly administered by
Mozilla.  It has its own code base,
https://git.mozilla.org/webtools/bmo/bugzilla.git.

Upstream Bugzilla, that is, the general, packaged, versioned product, is
governed separately.  It has a project lead, assistant project leads,
and official reviewers and approvers.  Mozilla acts as a steward of the
Bugzilla project, providing resources like machines and a bit of labour,
but not controlling its direction.

Historically, since shortly after Mozilla first released Bugzilla, the
Bugzilla development community has not involved very many people from
the Mozilla community, and almost no Mozilla employees.  Lately, this
has shifted a bit, as the upstream community has dwindled.  We (Mozilla
employees) got involved a bit more to attempt to revive the community,
though this hasn't been very successful.  At this point, there are
almost no official reviewers nor approvers left; those that are there
happen to be Mozilla employees, but that is largely happenstance, and it
was not intended to be permanent.

Mark


On 2015-11-18 3:16 PM, Denis Roy wrote:
> I find it odd that BMO is using something that looks like Bugzilla, but
> isn't.
> 
> EditComments, the Dashboard, and even the UI are different (read:
> better) than what is available to the rest of us. These extensions are
> available to us, somewhere, in some repo, if we can find it.
> 
> Why does Mozilla do this backwards?  Wouldn't you want to improve the
> core project and have BMO (and everyone else) consume that?
> 
> When a group of developers are off in one corner working on a new UI, it
> makes it impossible for the rest of us to follow along. Furthermore, our
> contributions go ignored because we're not aware of the work that's
> happening behind the scenes:
>   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101865#c51
> 
> Short story -- does the Bugzilla project want contributions, or is it
> relegated to being a code dump for Mozilla's bug tracker?
> 
> 
> D.
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