Re: [friam] Oracle trying to pollute the name "object capabilities"?

[resending Randy's message so it gets to the same lists as the original.
Further discussion should take place on cap-talk]


On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Randall Smith <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Mark —
>
> I understand your frustration here, sorry I don’t know to whom to address
> your concern …
>
> ...but…
>
> Aren’t you equally upset by the use of the term “object” in this document,
> denoting a chunk of memory that is not even encapsulated? I gently suggest
> that the term “capability" is rather in the same situation as “object.”
> Namely, it’s too routine, it’s too everyday … it’s expecting too much for
> the word to acquire a universally-respected meaning more subtly crafted
> than it has in it’s foggy everyday use. Even within a sub-domain as broad
> as computational systems.
>
> With enough work, I could try to get you in touch with someone in the
> right part of the Oracle org chart, but in order to have the most
> constructive impact in the world, we need to select our battles wisely. In
> other words, let’s not waste our time when we know we’ll just get the cold,
> fishy-eyed stare.
>
> FWIW, in my opinion, you’re under no threat of concept dilution. Anyone
> learning about capability systems will immediately appreciate the
> expressive power and elegance they offer, and, as with “object,” come to
> live their now-enlightened life without confusion when encountering some
> document that wants to use the word in a different way. (An Oracle document
> no less! Come on! I mean… an Oracle document!)
>
>    -- Randy
>
> On August 2, 2014 at 10:57:42 AM, Mark S. Miller ([email protected])
> wrote:
>
>  [+...]
>
> DAMN!!!
>
> Who should we complain to in order to get this fixed?
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Mike Stay <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23824_01/html/819-0690/chapter7-28.html
>>
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>     Cheers,
>     --MarkM
>
>


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    Cheers,
    --MarkM

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