Re: Shill: capability-based shell

Scott Moore <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.capabilities.general
Message-ID <CANCm3+LiXRHuAnGQXY0ypqOCyzaJGOk=JxDzpq5Ew-5HhChZgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Bill,
Yes, you're right that you need to look at a bit more than the contract for
that particular security goal. The actual script is careful not to grant
this capability to student programs directly, but appends per-submission
log files onto the log. We probably should have clarified that further in
the paper, and used a more specific "append-only" capability for the script
as a whole... Good catch.
Cheers,
Scott

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Bill Frantz <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 9/25/14 at 9:45 AM, [email protected] (Scott Moore) wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>> I'm part of the team working on Shill. I'm happy to answer any questions
>> and we're very excited to hear what cap-talk thinks!
>> Cheers,
>> Scott
>>
>> On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Tony Arcieri <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  Apologies if this has been discussed before but It's New To Me(TM), and
>>> relevant to the recent "Shellshock" escapades with bash:
>>>
>>> http://shill.seas.harvard.edu/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tony Arcieri
>>>
>>
> In looking at your paper <http://shill.seas.harvard.
> edu/shill-osdi-2014.pdf>, figure 1, it appears that the grade instance
> has full write access to the grade_log. I interpret this to mean that a
> student program could overwrite or otherwise corrupt the grade_log. This is
> similar to the problem Norm Hardy addressed with his "Confused Deputy"
> paper.
>
> Don't get me wrong. I think Shill is addressing many of the right issues,
> is a useful contribution, and the above issue could be addressed in several
> ways within the Shill system.
>
> Cheers - Bill
>
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