Re: [friam] Delegation is the Cornerstone of Civilization: Sharing in Sandstorm.io

"Mark S. Miller" <[email protected]> Fri, 8 May 2015 07:46:32 -0700
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Speaking only for myself:

I am not aware of any user testing of this issue. User testing is of course
great if someone foots the bill. But we should also remember that we all
make zillions of decisions based on intuition and guesses not backed by
studies. We cannot afford to do anything else. So lack of user study should
indeed raise our uncertainty, but it should not mean "we have no idea until
a study is done". Rather, we do what we do with a zillion decisions we make
all the time without being able to afford a study -- we argue and criticize
and build systems and see how people like them.

Regarding the auto-joining, I strongly share this intuition about humans vs
machines. Much of the difference between the Pet Name Markup Language <
http://www.erights.org/elib/capability/pnml.html> vs Lambda Calculus is
based on this same intuition.



On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:05 AM, 'Ben Laurie' via friam <
friam-/[email protected]> wrote:

> On 5 May 2015 at 17:58, Kenton Varda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Cap-talk and Friam,
> >
> > Thought you'd find this interesting. We announced the first iteration of
> > Sandstorm's new sharing model today, borrowing a quote from Marc. :)
> >
> >
> https://blog.sandstorm.io/news/2015-05-05-delegation-is-the-cornerstone-of-civilization.html
> >
> > Note that we're talking about sharing between humans here, which is why
> we
> > allow capabilities from multiple sources to be auto-joined from the
> user's
> > point of view. Humans get confused if they have multiple caps for the
> same
> > document with different rights.
>
> I am curious: have you done any usability testing of this model? If
> so, have you published the results? If not, why not? Would you like
> to?
>
> > But for sharing between computers
> > (capability passing between apps) we will do no such thing.
> >
> > -Kenton
> >
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-- 
    Cheers,
    --MarkM

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