Re: alive e/ken style projects?

Seems that futures and/or promises are now, in one form or the other, 
one of the must-haves of main stream programming languages. Python, 
Scala, C++, Java,Scala, R, JavaScript, the latest or upcoming versions 
all seem to come with limited to full support for 'local' futures and 
promises.
On the other side we have Cap'n-Proto for the 'networked' variant. You 
could probably fit these two together, but the idea of doing it as 
seamless as it was in E seems like its far from achievable. Next to 
that, not being ocap languages, even when combining Cap'n-Proto with 
local language specific promices and futures will still require massive 
efforts into OS-specific privilege separation setups in order to achieve 
anything close to what E achieved. Don't get me wrong, even with E 
limited OS-specific privilege separation had its value, its just that 
with any
of the mainstream languages you would use in its place, the hardening 
and privsep stuff that needs to be done to even reach the level of trust 
you could expect from an unprotected E process setup would be vastly 
more than that required to protect en E process and VAT from attacks 
from below. IMHO futures and promises are an essential language feature 
for imperative languages, and Cap'n Proto neatly fills the networking 
and cross-language gap. But lacking both seamless integration between 
the two and lacking capability security as core language property still
makes all of it a big step back from E.

I'm really hoping actually Mark and Tom will someday do what Kenton did 
with his Cap'n-proto based web platform: Go and crowdfund the further 
development and promotion of the Dr-SES stuff. Dr-SES truly seemed like 
it would become like a mainstreamable E on steroids.




On 2015-10-13 23:49, Raoul Duke wrote:
> hi,
> 
> What are the most alive, in use, updated, worked upon projects doing E
> / Ken type stuff? Most seem to have stopped having work done on them
> when I look at their repos.
> 
> In this day and age, if one is looking or something both alive & cool
> enough to support promise pipelining and such ilk, where should one
> go?
> 
> thank you.
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