Re: alive e/ken style projects?

I was speaking of automagic on the platform builder side, i.e., there is a
long distance between building promises into the platform and building
promises that pipeline into the platform. Waterken, btw, does implement
pipelining. Capper does not.

--marcs

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Mark Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wonder whether you are using automagical on two different sides of the
> abstraction boundary. In E/CapTP and Cap'n Proto, we platform builders put
> a lot of work into building promise pipelining into the platform. The
> result is that they are automagical to the users of these platforms.
>
> I know Waterken had the enabling mechanism for promise pipelining. But I
> don't remember if it was completed and made the default mode of operation.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Marc Stiegler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> pipelining promises is anything but automagical. Capper, my open source
>> nodejs server that uses promises and semi-transparent checkpointing and
>> webkeys, intended to bring some of the virtues of waterken to javascript,
>> does not include pipelining for the promises. The pipelining is far more
>> work to implement than are the promises themselves.
>>
>> --marcs
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Raoul Duke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> >> they can be pipelined.  In particular, they can be pipelined over the
>>> >> network when invoking operations on remote objects, which means that a
>>> > So I would say, yes. But the Javascript community largely hasn't
>>> discovered
>>> > it yet. :-)
>>>
>>> But "can" doesn't mean it happens automagically by the underlying
>>> framework. Maybe it does, but I suspect most likely it doesn't, yet?
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