Re: Capability allegories

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:53 PM, William ML Leslie
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 3 February 2016 at 08:36, Matt Rice <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yeah, it is a bit of a stretch, I should probably said its a well
>> known story that can be framed in capability terms.
>>
>> A few points, that the order of the story matters...
>>
>> god makes adam,
>> Revokes authority to the tree of knowledge of good and evil,
>> only then he knocks Adam out, and creates Eve from Adam's rib..
>> Then Eve gets tricked into taking the fruit, and sharing it with Adam.
>
> How do you figure that God revoked Adam's access to the tree before he
> ate from it?  After all, it was Adam who was given the command, not
> Eve.  It'd be a bit pointless to give someone a command that they
> couldn't violate.
>
> But the real reason this analogy falls flat for me is that all the
> actors here knew what they were doing.  Not only does the punishment
> not make sense if Adam didn't know what he was eating, but the guilty
> excuse he makes, throwing his wife under the bus when he should have
> taken responsibility, shows that he was complicit in that rebellion.

I should say that it represents a failure to confine as defined by
http://www.cap-lore.com/CapTheory/term.html

"An environment confines if state in the environment cannot get out
even with the coordinated efforts of code in and out of the
environment."

Adam was given the command not Eve, and yet Adam was still capable of
breaking the command through collusion with Eve...

I honestly don't really care about the details of the analogy so much
as the fact that
it stresses the age and importance of the problem