Re: Rails-like functionality in FluxCMS/Popoon

Simon Rönnqvist <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.cms.bitflux.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
   Hi!

I just had to come back to this mail, since I found some info on a  
project trying to merge some of Rails functionality into Cocoon:
http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/archives/2005_08.html#000810

   cheers, Simon


On Aug 2, 2005, at 18:46, Christian Stocker wrote:

> Disclaimer: I never really looked into Rails or all those "clones", so
> may opinion is maybe not that well-funded :)  I read some how-tos,
> 'though :)
>
>
> On 1.8.2005 1:41 Uhr, Simon Rönnqvist wrote:
>
>>   Hi!
>>
>> I've noticed that Ruby on Rails (http://www.rubyonrails.com) has   
>> gained
>> popularity fast lately. It's kind of convenient and easy to  use
>> framework for developing database driven web-applications in the
>> language Ruby. This kind of framework idea has lately been inspired
>> many similar ones of which http://sputnik.pl/cake/ and http://
>> phpontrax.com/ are PHP-based. Think that Cake has gotten further,  
>> but  I
>> haven't really had time to try them out very much yet. (http://
>> jrhicks.net has a long list of similar ones for different languages)
>>
>> My question is wether it'd be possible to easily integrate one of   
>> these
>> PHP-based ones with Flux CMS or Popoon. Another question is  also  
>> what
>> sense it would make. My guess is that it could help making  coding of
>> Flux CMS plug-ins easier. Any thoughts on this matter?
>>
>
> Rails uses a more or less classic MVC approach, which FluxCMS/Popoon
> doesn't. It's also some kind of MVC, just different. I don't know  
> how to
> translate it, but maybe
>
> Model: Generators/plugins
> View: XSLT/transformers
> Controllers: .configxml, sitemap
>
> (with some overlaps here and there)
>
> Where I can see something to be learned from rails is the DBDO  
> approach,
> something between AppController and AppModel as a plugin for easy
> accessing and editing of DB-Data in an OO way. View is out of question
> here anyway IMHO :) We have covered that pretty decently with XSLT.
>
> OTOH, with have the structure2xml and db2xml plugins with the dbforms2
> editor for easy and powerful outputting and editing of DB-data, so I'm
> not really sure, if we need yet another approach for that. But yes,  
> I'm
> sure this could be done with a plugin and maybe additionally an editor
> (or just use dbforms2, that's powerfull enough :) )
>
> chregu
>

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